And You Know This Man.....

[SgtLong]

So here we go again............

Rumors, confirmations...............

Video clips of new DLC.........

Little hints, teasing BS about what ifs and what hows...........


I know, i was you to, hanging on every ewwww and ahhhhh tidbit of:

Something new/Something Better

But in the end save yourself from your own expectations.......

A company that sells guns does not mail you pieces of it prior to making it..............you know why?

Because it works and it does its job!

So why are we suffering like kids on caffeine withdraws over the same Skittles Rainbow?


Come on do you feel sorry for the fish for taking your lure? Hell no you throw it back in and pull in another one?

Honestly lets take it up a notch and quit playing games and just state the obvious: We have sucked and we owe our true hardcore gamers a total redo of a series we let go of because we were to busy selling the unfinished parts of the game in DLC and making people suffer through glimmer of hope before bringing them back to their knees to suffer our horrible lack of listening to the obvious people we have rendered helpless because of our lack of standards.

Of coarse this could really be a bad dream and you ll read this and wake up?

[nvm]

Honestly lets take it up a notch and quit playing games

What?!?!! Never!

[Genius of the Restoration]

I don't get it

[Chris Death]

Is it a song?

~S~ CD

[|Sith| Max]

So here we go again............

Rumors, confirmations...............

Video clips of new DLC.........

Little hints, teasing BS about what ifs and what hows...........


I know, i was you to, hanging on every ewwww and ahhhhh tidbit of:

Something new/Something Better

But in the end save yourself from your own expectations.......

A company that sells guns does not mail you pieces of it prior to making it..............you know why?

Because it works and it does its job!

So why are we suffering like kids on caffeine withdraws over the same Skittles Rainbow?


Come on do you feel sorry for the fish for taking your lure? Hell no you throw it back in and pull in another one?

Honestly lets take it up a notch and quit playing games and just state the obvious: We have sucked and we owe our true hardcore gamers a total redo of a series we let go of because we were to busy selling the unfinished parts of the game in DLC and making people suffer through glimmer of hope before bringing them back to their knees to suffer our horrible lack of listening to the obvious people we have rendered helpless because of our lack of standards.

Of coarse this could really be a bad dream and you ll read this and wake up?

I agree with you completely! when it comes to CA, Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment!
ofcourse i started checking what the games were made of after MTW2 using "Completely legal means" and saw the trap, but i feel sad for the idiots that didn't. CA's just going to do epic fail at the next game like the last...

[Chris Death]

So what do you think you can effectively do about it?

Boykotting computer games - isolating yourself?

Do it and when your gone they maybe create a monument dedicated
to the one in the ancient days who has reformed the computer games industry.

Now seriously: New gamers will appear who were never in contact with the good
old completely finished games on release day so they will eat what they get and
you will be forgotten for all time. CA is not the first one showing up with such a
concept. EA had something like DLC's for Battlefield 2 - European forces and Armored fury.

As long as there are customers who see this as a feature, they can go on with this
concept and there are and more are comming - those who remember the old days will
be gone one day and the remaining ones will accept the fact that it was like it is from the
beginning of their computer gaming era.

This is the point where you can enter your grandfather's steps and say no to everything what's
new or you swim with the stream and get out the best you can of it.

I know it's sad but it's the way world goes and the great gamer revolt will not happen anytime soon.

:edit - btw i forgot to mention a bad side effect of the good old days when games were finished
at release and we were going into shops to buy them with real money.

There was either the chance the the game runs on your computer or there was no chance of getting
it to run.

Now you had to go back into the store and some understood your problem but some said it's not their fault
and since you opened the package already you've accepted what you've got.

After some lots of argueing you could maybe the still get "some" other game for the same price or more but
in most cases it wasn't a game you were eager to play and so it disappeared in your shelves.

~S~ CD

[SgtLong]

Well, at least we have places we can share our feelings and honesty about our experience; especially when we are a community who needs to take a stand together. Most of my honest posts get deleted, if we can not express it to the people who caused it, then what good have we done in making a solution to correct that experience? We are after all human and if feel the need to express it in the way i do, then that is my right. It may not SAVE the world from all the CA's out there but at least you know someone stood up and said, with guts and honesty what many people will not. That is why i do it, because there has to be a voice a truth, in the midst of deception.

[Drowsy]

Boykotting computer games - isolating yourself?

Oh my, you need to get out more

Let's grab a ice cream

Most of my honest posts get deleted,

For all your human wisdom u still failed to read the forum EULA from the sound of it
If u go about saving the world and stuff the like, either be sarcastic or do so in the form of constructive criticism.

[SgtLong]

2 men enter...1 man leaves....2 men enter....1 man leaves

[Chris Death]

Oh my, you need to get out more

Let's grab a ice cream

So you too then or do you really think you did better taking your time to read what i wrote?

You can off course take peaces of what i wrote and turn it around or see it from another
point of view but isolating yourself was meant in combination with boykotting computer games
and not about isolating yourself from the rest of the world by sitting at home playing games
anyways. I knew one will come with that but i find it rather nitpicking or being a smarta$$ than
useful for planing my own freetime.

:edit - and btw - there's no such thing like a forum EULA
You seem to have been playing too much games seeing alot of EULA's popping
up so you're confused a bit. An EULA is an End User License Agreement and thus
is not needed for a forum.

What you were talking about are the General Forum Rules.

~S~ CD

[Drowsy]

So you too then or do you really think you did better taking your time to read what i wrote?

You can off course take peaces of what i wrote and turn it around or see it from another
point of view but isolating yourself was meant in combination with boykotting computer games
and not about isolating yourself from the rest of the world by sitting at home playing games
anyways. I knew one will come with that but i find it rather nitpicking or being a smarta$$ than
useful for planing my own freetime.

:edit - and btw - there's no such thing like a forum EULA
You seem to have been playing too much games seeing alot of EULA's popping
up so you're confused a bit. An EULA is an End User License Agreement and thus
is not needed for a forum.

What you were talking about are the General Forum Rules.

~S~ CD

You are of course totally correct, now let's go i want that ice cream!

[|Sith| Max]

So what do you think you can effectively do about it?

Boykotting computer games - isolating yourself?

Do it and when your gone they maybe create a monument dedicated
to the one in the ancient days who has reformed the computer games industry.

Now seriously: New gamers will appear who were never in contact with the good
old completely finished games on release day so they will eat what they get and
you will be forgotten for all time. CA is not the first one showing up with such a
concept. EA had something like DLC's for Battlefield 2 - European forces and Armored fury.

As long as there are customers who see this as a feature, they can go on with this
concept and there are and more are comming - those who remember the old days will
be gone one day and the remaining ones will accept the fact that it was like it is from the
beginning of their computer gaming era.

This is the point where you can enter your grandfather's steps and say no to everything what's
new or you swim with the stream and get out the best you can of it.

I know it's sad but it's the way world goes and the great gamer revolt will not happen anytime soon.

:edit - btw i forgot to mention a bad side effect of the good old days when games were finished
at release and we were going into shops to buy them with real money.

There was either the chance the the game runs on your computer or there was no chance of getting
it to run.

Now you had to go back into the store and some understood your problem but some said it's not their fault
and since you opened the package already you've accepted what you've got.

After some lots of argueing you could maybe the still get "some" other game for the same price or more but
in most cases it wasn't a game you were eager to play and so it disappeared in your shelves.

~S~ CD

1. no why would i boycot the gaming industry or shut myself in? Stupid suggestions.
2. Those were expansions for BF2...
3. If gamers hate something they do it otherwise. for example i hate steam so much i dont play L4D multi via steam.

[Chris Death]

Well i didn't say EA had DLC's but something like DLC's - expansions.

However we call them - they were useless and just a try to make more
money out of the game.

So you don't play L4D via steam - now do you think they gonna miss you - and isn't this the exact opposite
of what you said at 1. in this post?

However - there's no point in argueing what we are doing about it since there's not much what we as individuals
can do about it to change something in general. That's what i tried to explain with the generation thingy - we
and the way we did will get forgotten and overwhelmed by the following generations who grew up with the new
more money making way of delivering games to the enduser.

You are of course totally correct, now let's go i want that ice cream! You are of course totally correct, now let's go i want that ice cream!

lol nah - it's raining bada$$ outside - gonna see if i got one left in my refrigator near my pc.

~S~ CD

[Drowsy]

Well i didn't say EA had DLC's but something like DLC's - expansions.

However we call them - they were useless and just a try to make more
money out of the game.

So you don't play L4D via steam - now do you think they gonna miss you - and isn't this the exact opposite
of what you said at 1. in this post?

However - there's no point in argueing what we are doing about it since there's not much what we as individuals
can do about it to change something in general. That's what i tried to explain with the generation thingy - we
and the way we did will get forgotten and overwhelmed by the following generations who grew up with the new
more money making way of delivering games to the enduser.



lol nah - it's raining bada$$ outside - gonna see if i got one left in my refrigator near my pc.

~S~ CD

Ok screw the ice cream then.


There is indeed very little any individual can do about these developments, but i for one won't buy certain games without dedicated servers, infested with drm, little content slowly expanded by dlc's every quarter and tiny expansions every year. I have however done so in the past but learned from it, i have no doubt future 'generations' will as well. These new business models are not long term solutions and will not accomplish a solid base. They will need to grow, invest and expand or die, and the latter they will eventually given time. C.A. is a perfect example of this, on there current path they will be a footnote on some wikipage in 5-10 years time. We will however always cherish the greatness that was MTW1/2, RTW and Shogun.

[Spartan198]

We will however always cherish the greatness that was MTW1/2 and RTW.

And Shogun.

[Drowsy]

And Shogun.

How it could have slipped my mind i do not know, i will edit this grave mistake.

[|Sith| Max]

Well i didn't say EA had DLC's but something like DLC's - expansions.

However we call them - they were useless and just a try to make more
money out of the game.

So you don't play L4D via steam - now do you think they gonna miss you - and isn't this the exact opposite
of what you said at 1. in this post?

However - there's no point in argueing what we are doing about it since there's not much what we as individuals
can do about it to change something in general. That's what i tried to explain with the generation thingy - we
and the way we did will get forgotten and overwhelmed by the following generations who grew up with the new
more money making way of delivering games to the enduser.



lol nah - it's raining bada$$ outside - gonna see if i got one left in my refrigator near my pc.

~S~ CD

what does playing L4D on a nonsteam server have to do with shutting myself in? I got the right to pick whatever server i want to play on. Also why do you think the expansions for BF2 sucked? Special Forces was rather nice if you had a clan to play it with.

[Chris Death]

what does playing L4D on a nonsteam server have to do with shutting myself in? I got the right to pick whatever server i want to play on. Also why do you think the expansions for BF2 sucked? Special Forces was rather nice if you had a clan to play it with.

I'm not familar with L4D so sorry if i mixed something up - thought you don't play it at all.

SF was cool yeah but i was thinking more about the two smaller ones: European forces and Armored fury and those two were some kind of must have but not need. They have been worth a look and
a few times playing but the majority didn't play them though.

I see special forces more like NTW - NTW seems to be a good game too and ppl are playing it and do
like it. Special forces also came at the price of a whole game and not an expansion if i remember correctly.

~S~ CD