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    Default Nerf Marhatas maybe?

    On my Prussian campaign (campaign difficulty 3/4), the Marhatas took over all of India, Afghanistan and Iran in no time at all. It became so rich and powerful, everyone got into an alliance with it. And since the most powerful AI faction is programed to be aggressive towards you, I had the Marhatas send a full stack in a ship to Berlin. After a few turns, another full elite stack of navy+army turned up in my Venetian ports. One entered Croatia. Another then entered East Prussia... I mean, seriously, why are the Marhatas acting like Viking raiders and why are they becoming to powerful? As if handling Sweden, Austria, Poland-Lithuania and France is not bad enough already!

    Then on my British campaign (campaign and battle difficulty 4/4), I attacked Calcutta and Orrisa and took them. This was when the Mughals were still alive. The Marhatas sent full stacks to reclaim their cities and kicked me out of India. So I was busy kicking out the French from North America and subduing the native nations and, yup you've guessed it, full stacks of elite Marhata units land in Jamaica and the Bahamas.... SERIOUSLY, what the hell? =/

    In both cases though, I managed to survive. It's 1753 now and I've just kicked the Marhatas out of North America... most of which is Hindu by now and bears the best of south Indian architecture...

    Does the same happen with anyone else?
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    I guess you must be new to ETW cos this is old news. For some reason, CA made the Marathas like Terminaters of the 18th century. CA aren`t going to fix it, but there are Mods that do. check the Mods section. You can even install Darthmod which does this as well as a bunch of other things.

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    Instead of nerfing the Maratha, someone needs to figure out how to make the other major powers just like them.

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    Marathas are what the Egyptians were in RTW. Something to keep the end game remotely challenging.
    The general expectation is that most players start as a European country and will not have significant dealings with the Marathas until later, at which time an overpowered faction in control of all of India is the only thing that could possibly challenge the player.
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    Default Re: Nerf Marhatas maybe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elmar View Post
    Marathas are what the Egyptians were in RTW. Something to keep the end game remotely challenging.
    The general expectation is that most players start as a European country and will not have significant dealings with the Marathas until later, at which time an overpowered faction in control of all of India is the only thing that could possibly challenge the player.
    quoted because thats what i think about it
    dont take away my end game challence
    but i do wish the end-game challenge was randomized each game
    like if you tick a box saying "end game challenge" and then choose the number "1-3 end game challengers"

    and then those random factions are really aggressive and give some economic bonuses they also start off with more troops
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    Quote Originally Posted by MedontCare View Post
    quoted because thats what i think about it
    dont take away my end game challence
    but i do wish the end-game challenge was randomized each game
    Exactly! The mistake (as was the case with Egypt in RTW) is it`s nearly always the same faction. It gets predictable and boring fast knowing that the Marathas are going to be your biggest threat every end game unless YOU shut them down early.

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    If you are tired of the mahrattas taking over, try Darthmod, they have been weakened so that India is a less predictable place, Though I would add, DarthMod makes the campaign much harder, though also much more enjoyable!

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    i just destroyed them as Mughuls without them taking a single city, but yes most of the time their in Persia before you even have the means to get to India

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    I managed to balance the Marathas in Vanilla early on by giving some american possessions to the Mughals, so by the time I went to India, the Mughals were on equal footing with Maratha thanks to the extra money generated from their colonial possessions
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    I'm gonna take them out now.... And post screenshots! ^^
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    Just give the mugals as much tech as possible. That often hamstrings the marathans and they get bogged down fighting each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahmud Ghaznavi View Post

    In both cases though, I managed to survive. It's 1753 now and I've just kicked the Marhatas out of North America... most of which is Hindu by now and bears the best of south Indian architecture...
    Indians in North America? What kind of sick, twisted AI is this
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    so... you say that when the devs purposefully made the marathas it was to imitate the other TW games's mongol invasions/timurid invasions?

    if so... well thats not too whacky. but i would much rather get invaded by the mongols 100 times over than to see a faction grow incredibly powerful just by the devs giving them unfair bonuses
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    Darth mod has a mode that neuters the Marathas and gives colonies in India to GB and France.

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    Same. 1771 and I just noticed the Marathas captured half of Egypt and were in the Balkans. Me and GB are gonna have to take them on since we're the strongest European powers.


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