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    can anyone give me some info on them?(rise,fall,expansion) im interested in them

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    Quote Originally Posted by pspguy123 View Post
    Humayun's reign is omitted in that link, his reign was crucial for the development of Indo-Persian culture.

    It calls Jalaluddin Muhammad Akbar, Abu Akbar though lol

    it also calls Shah Jahan, Jahan simply.


    I created this group on the Mughals:

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/group.php?groupid=859

    I recommend Francis Robinson's The Mughal Emperors if you want an account of their rise,expansion and fall.Also The Great Mughals by Bamber Gascoigne is a great book on this too.

    The Mughals happen to be one of my specialities
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaketh View Post
    can anyone give me some info on them?(rise,fall,expansion) im interested in them
    The Mughals are one of my specialities also. Here's an article i wrote, which i think provides a brief but relatively detailed summary.

    The main rulers were:

    Babur - founder, spent years wandering in the deserts of Central Asia where he met an old man, who apparently told him of a 'promised land' of Hindustan, which he set about conquering with some help from his Persian friends.

    Humayun - my personal favourite. Lost his throne to an Afghan from Bihar names Sher Shah Suri, then got it back after defeating Sher shah's successor, before falling down the stairs of his observatory and dying.

    Akbar - greatest emperor in terms of expanding the empire, hence his nickname (akbar = great)

    Jahangir - not hugely exciting imo

    Jahan - very interesting, founded a religion which was followed by a large number of people, among other things

    Aurangzeb Alamgir- expanded to its fullest extent, though extremely ruthless.

    after this the empire collapsed, and by 1858 (over a hundred years later to be fair) the position 'Mughal Emperor' was little more than an honorary title.
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    A series of articles I wrote on the first three Mughals in great detail:

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=156483

    The main symbols of the Mughal Empire were these:



    shir o korshid, just like in Iran zamin









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    thanks guys, i honestly never heard of them before i played ETW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaketh View Post
    thanks guys, i honestly never heard of them before i played ETW
    Well I have heard about them all my life , the city where I am from, Delhi was the Mughal Capital from 1639-1857 .

    I also wrote an article on Afghanistan during the Mughal period:

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=306214
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaketh View Post
    thanks guys, i honestly never heard of them before i played ETW
    Unbelievable! Its not really your fault, its societies. The Mughals are up there with the Mongols and the Romans and the British as one of the greatest empires of all time. At one point, a fifth of the world's material wealth was to be found in India.
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    A local administrator was asked to comment. He nodded sagely, and said simply: "Wow. And think about how much more pronounced these effects will be once the tower is actually operational."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaketh View Post
    thanks guys, i honestly never heard of them before i played ETW
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    Delhi was the Mughal Capital from 1639-1857 .
    And it's a town in ETW...

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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    And it's a town in ETW...
    yeah , it was called Shahjahanabad in the time of ETW and was the capital of the Mughal Empire
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    Quote Originally Posted by pspguy123 View Post
    Oh, and Yo Babur, I'm really happy for you, I'ma Let you finish, but Lahore is the best mughal capital of all time!
    lol it was only Mughal capital for a brief period, otherwise the capital was Agra from 1526-1639 and Delhi from 1639-1857, there was a reason why Delhi's Red Fort was called Qila-i-Mubarak you know because the Royal family resided there.It was known as Shahjahanabad from the time of Shah Jahan onwards since he made it his capital.Sadly after 1739 it lost much of its glory after it was looted by Nadir Shah's army, here is a painting from the time showing the Mughal Emperor Muhammad Shah with Nadir Shah:



    Delhi was also where Bahadur Shah Zafar resided and here is a picture of him taken before being exiled to Rangoon:





    If you said Agra was the best Mughal capital of all time then I could understand because even into Aurangzeb's time, the court was held there.
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    Mughals were a mixed bunch. Some were quite good, and others were complete monsters, especially Aarungzeb. All were very cultured though. India has always been a cultural and financial powerhouse when united under a single kingdom. It's a shame that the Marathas didn't last longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fishman View Post
    Mughals were a mixed bunch. Some were quite good, and others were complete monsters, especially Aarungzeb. All were very cultured though. India has always been a cultural and financial powerhouse when united under a single kingdom.
    Indeed they were all very cultured

    It's a shame that the Marathas didn't last longer.
    I am not a massive fan of the Marathas though
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    The emperors were very diverse. Akbar and Jahan were open and tolerant, if extremely grandiose. Jahangir was plain hedonistic. Aurangzeb was ruthless. Humayun was lethargic.
    However resentment amongst the ulema began to build up during Akbar's reign and this would later come into the open when Aurangzeb rebelled against Shah Jahan in 1657.Shah Jahan favoured Dara Shukoh over Aurangzeb and this would prove disastrous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KngGilgamesh View Post
    just a bit

    most people haven't heard of the Saffavid(sp?) Empire, Ottoman Empire, Mughal empire, etc.
    A shame, even if they learned it in History, they soon forget. Most don't know where Persia was.
    I grew up in Lahore(and Kashmir) so i have seen the monuments there, like the badshahi Musjid, Shahi Kila, Etc. Moved to US three years ago.
    Are you Pakistani?

    well they could at least bring some of their food here too, it is awesome
    Biryani Zindabad
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    Quote Originally Posted by pspguy123 View Post
    You aern't either....



    Nice! Too many punjabis on these forums
    And no problem, I have finals too, unfortunately
    Punjab is the most populated area in both India and Pakistan,

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    wow , im actually a relative of the desendant of the muhul empire and when i went to tthier house in india OH MAN they had a toilet seat made of gold NO JOKE...!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaketh View Post
    can anyone give me some info on them?(rise,fall,expansion) im interested in them
    This should help
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    theres a mvie about akbar but is in urdu , with english subtitles though its still awesome,
    http://www.jodhaaakbar.com/
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