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    Default Units trained under siege

    Hi the other day I was playing as the Ayyubids and I laid siege to Acre. I had a spy that informed me the garrison was made up of only the kings bodyguard and one unit of hospitallers. The turn ended and to my astonishment the garrison had grown by 6 or 7 units! They sallied and I was routed. I had thought that units couldn't be trained while under siege; or was this a special circumstance because it was their capital?

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    I think that is a glitch. Its happened to me at Constantinople when i lay siege to it. But instead ten Emperors Guard apeard along with overkill Royal Cataphracts. I had the Kypach steppe horde and i got massacured.

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    Default Re: Units trained under siege

    It's not a glitch, it's a script--certain regions get instant reinforcements when they are besieged because the AI is helpless stupid and will otherwise leave crucial cities undefended, as you saw. Some modders do that for every settlement on the map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleach View Post
    It's not a glitch, it's a script--certain regions get instant reinforcements when they are besieged because the AI is helpless stupid and will otherwise leave crucial cities undefended, as you saw. Some modders do that for every settlement on the map.

    Thanks I'll keep that in mind next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleach View Post
    It's not a glitch, it's a script--certain regions get instant reinforcements when they are besieged because the AI is helpless stupid and will otherwise leave crucial cities undefended, as you saw. Some modders do that for every settlement on the map.
    You can easily remove the script if you want. To me it's highly annoying as I make decisions to attack places that are relatively undefended then suddenly they get a ton of units and with the BC high defense values... My games were more fun once it was removed.

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    I think it adds to the mod once you make the mindset switch "No important enemy homeland city is ever lightly defended."

    To me it makes no sense to be able to take Constantinople or Damascus without a fight.

    If you do not know about the system and the units appear by surprise it's annoying, because what -was- a strategically sensible decision suddenly becomes suicide. Not that stuff like this didn't happen in reality, but still. Once you simply mentally add that half-stack to the defences of important cities it's a bit harder to blitz your way across the map but it feels more like an honest victory once you do.

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    Exactly. We should just think of the "garrison script" as some kind of citizen militia, conscripted in times of emergency. And being sieged at it's own capital is certainly a emergency situation for a faction.

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    It is a script yes, but u have to understand the realism behind this, cause when youre capital is under attack, there are many supplies and weapons there, even more people to use them, so kings and rulers would gather whatever they could to defend their cities, a siege is a bloody business and can take many years, were talking cities here with thousands of people so basically this is the only proper thing to implement in my oppinion.

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    Dont forget other cities and ally kingdoms would be certainly helping them out too!
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    Default Re: Units trained under siege

    Its not a glitch, its garrison script or something. Each turn you besiege AI city, he (it) spawns some defenders.

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