Teutonic Knights

[SpetsNazTR]

Hi,
Just wondering why the Teutonic Order can't get Mounted and Dismounted Teutonic Knights.
thanks

[Stolet]

Because they get mounted and dismounted Ritterbruder, it wouldn't be fair if they got those too

[Lord Lancelot]

I think you mean Ritterbruder, becouse you use AOR or RR/RC , you will be able to recruit them only in the period when they was historicly invated or if your War coincil member is in castle.

[SpetsNazTR]

Hmm, i know it might not be fair but its silly the Teutonic Order can't get Teutonic Knights. Is there any sub mod to download or something i can do to make them available to the Teutonic Order?

[Xanthippus of Sparta]

Ummm....there are mounted and dismounted Halbbruders and Ritterbruders. These are "Teutonic Knights". The only Knights they have that don't have a dismounted version are Livonian Order Christ Knights....but there are other Livonian Order infantry units, like Sword Brethren.

http://www.totalwar.honga.net/factio...teutonic_order

[ly0_ly0]

I think he means the knights that HRE gets

[SpetsNazTR]

Yea there the ones, its just a little weird how the HRE get the Teutonic Knights and not the Teutonic Order. I shouldn't complain this mod is really good and i guess the Teutonic Order get ritterbruder which are a little cooler looking. But if the creators of this mod have a chance at making the Teutonic Knights available to the Teutonic Order that would be AWESOME!!!
thanks for all the reply's

[Navajo Joe]

Yea there the ones, its just a little weird how the HRE get the Teutonic Knights and not the Teutonic Order. I shouldn't complain this mod is really good and i guess the Teutonic Order get ritterbruder which are a little cooler looking. But if the creators of this mod have a chance at making the Teutonic Knights available to the Teutonic Order that would be AWESOME!!!
thanks for all the reply's

Spetsnatz,

I would strongly recommend you check out Battle for the Baltic V2 in sub mods, the Teutonic Units are awesome, furthermore this is an awesome sub mod, news units & skins for Novgorod, Poland, Mongols & Kievan Rus. A new faction in Sweden with many superb units.

[Snelhest]

Well the Teutonic knights available to the HRE can be seen as an amalgamation of the various knights of the Teutonic order. While the Teutonic order have these various knights as separate entities.

Perhaps a good way to save a unit slot would be to remove the generic Teutonic knight unit and make Ritter Brüders available to the HRE through the Teutonic chapter hourse.

[Navajo Joe]

Snelhest,

Its a nice idea, but are HRE already incredibly strong with mounted Knights. They currently have access to Feudal Knights, Imperial Knights, Gothic Knights and also Hospitallers/Templar Knights, do you not think Ritterbruder is a Knight too far?

[Snelhest]

Don't they already have access to Teutonic Knights? It would simply be replacing one knight with another, a zero sum game. Well apart from freeing up a unit slot.
However if you mean that they are to powerful that might be correct, since Ritter Brüders Are extremely good knights. I might give it a try see how it plays out, other wise one could use Christ Knights or Halbbrüder which are not quite as powerfull.

[PerXX]

It must be a SS 6.1 issue. In the RR/RC compilation, there's no Teutonic Knights, but the HRE gets access to the Ritterbrüders, and Dismounted Ritterbrüders via a guild, like the Knights Templar and Hospitaller Knights.

[Caesar Clivus]

It must be a SS 6.1 issue. In the RR/RC compilation, there's no Teutonic Knights, but the HRE gets access to the Ritterbrüders, and Dismounted Ritterbrüders via a guild, like the Knights Templar and Hospitaller Knights.

Yep. It's a change that got incorporated from the first BftB.

Bftb2 changes this a bit and gives the HRE access to only mounted and dismounted Halbbruder (or their equivalent)

[Sebastos Abdes Pantera]

Habbruder, Christ Knights and Ritterburder are all Teutonic knights and so is your generals bodygaurd in theory.

[PerXX]

Habbruder, Christ Knights and Ritterburder are all Teutonic knights and so is your generals bodygaurd in theory.

Halbbrüder, Ritterbrüder and Bodyguard And yeah, technically they're Teutonic knights, but earlier there was an actual unit called Teutonic Knights

[gornison]

Can you get other orders guild (like Templars or Hospitaliers) in your cities/castels when you play Teutonic Knights?

[Caesar Clivus]

Can you get other orders guild (like Templars or Hospitaliers) in your cities/castels when you play Teutonic Knights?

No. Wouldn't make much sense now would it

[Tears of Destiny]

No. Wouldn't make much sense now would it

Question is, why do the Crusader states/Templars not get access to the Teutonics? That is where the Teutonic order was originally stationed.
It would be nice if in the early era you had a limited chance to get them, or started with an irreplaceable unit of them in The Holy City.

[Sebastos Abdes Pantera]

Or maybe the order should but granted Acre as in DLV.

[Bosje]

hmm just reviving this old thread because i'm now on turn 3 of my teutonic campaign in 6.3 and i have one big nagging question:
why, for the love of all that is holy, do i not get access to 'religious order' troops apart from the sword brethren?

in theory, of course, my entire roster is religious order but in practise all those wonderful knights and heavy spearmen are treated as 'ordinary' elites
making them disgustingly expensive, which seems a bit unfair to me

KoJ gets cheap templars, both the knightly chapters and very cheap heavy infantry from barracks (templar spearmen and templar squires come to mind, good troops and very cheap (and very very low availability)

the only similar troops i can find in my teutonic roster are the excellent and cheap sword brethren, the others are feudal, professional or crap.
could it be possible to mod, say, the ritterbruders into the religious order category?
i hate having to pay 800 a turn just to have these guys out in the field when everybody else gets to have cheap elite knights, especially with my economy being what it is

thanks