Catholic Church invents new way to escape its responsibility for rapes
So, the Catholic Church is to claim that bishops are not employees and do not represent Rome in advance of an American court case. I suppose they thought blaming it on demons, homosexuals and Jews couldn't last forever.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7128562.ece
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Praeses
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omg, does there depravity know any limits?
Vicarius Provinciae
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Technicalities FTW
As a teenager, I was taken to various houses and flats above takeaways in the north of England, to be beaten, tortured and raped over 100 times. I was called a “white slag” and “white ****” as they beat me.
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Can't say this was a surprise...
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Why do you despise the Catholic Church so much? You can't hold the entire institution responsible for a few bad applesTimes Online
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Probably because some are concluding the bad apples outnumber the good ones. This latest weak attempt at disavowing responsibility because the bishops don't work for Rome is pretty pathetic.Originally Posted by sabaku_no_gaara
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Vicarius
Re: Catholic Church invents new way to escape its responsibility for rapes
And they base this on what? It's bigotry, nothing more.
Praefectus
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Nothing more you say?
http://www.catholicleague.org/resear...al_context.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases
The numbers are pretty sobering for "nothing more", wouldn't you say?
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That's just it though. Yes you can, if it is the institution that facilitates the actions of these bad apples. If a school builds a viewing platform on to its playground, and invites people to observe children at breaktimes, then are you trying to tell us that the paedophiles themselves are entirely responsible for making videos of them, and the school is innocent of blame? It is the institution's responsibility that, where reasonably possible, it minimises any risks.
In this case, it is inarguably the institution's responsibility to make sure that a paedophile does not have time alone with children, whereas what actually happened is making sure that they were not caught and did have time alone.
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Re: Catholic Church invents new way to escape its responsibility for rapes
Because the entire institution, including the current Pope, protected and enabled those individuals.
Vicarius
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what about televangelists...
waco, Texas.....
jimmy swaagart...
sanctioned poligamy in the muslim religion....
the catholic church is just an easy target, always has always will be.
their predisposition for being perfect and sanctimonious has let them down over the centuries, its true and they are slow to accept, apologise and change.. but you know what they do, eventually, but they always do.
i was baptised Catholic and even i changed my thinking as i grew up and discovered the truth about certain things.
But the real truth of the matter is everyone likes to take cheap shots at the catholics as it is easy and there are plenty hatemongers ready to jump on the bandwagon.
Some of the new 'branches of christianity' are getting more and more ridiculous every day, but its alwaaays the catholics...everyone else is apprently perfect..
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What about them? Don't introduce straw men to the argument. The Catholic Church is an easy target in the way that all organisations that enable paedophiles are easy targets. They should be afforded no sympathy just because the extent of their crimes makes it easy to attack them.what about televangelists...
waco, Texas.....
jimmy swaagart...
sanctioned poligamy in the muslim religion....
the catholic church is just an easy target, always has always will be.
their predisposition for being perfect and sanctimonious has let them down over the centuries, its true and they are slow to accept, apologise and change.. but you know what they do, eventually, but they always do.
i was baptised Catholic and even i changed my thinking as i grew up and discovered the truth about certain things.
But the real truth of the matter is everyone likes to take cheap shots at the catholics as it is easy and there are plenty hatemongers ready to jump on the bandwagon.
Some of the new 'branches of christianity' are getting more and more ridiculous every day, but its alwaaays the catholics...everyone else is apprently perfect..
Insulting paedophiles is cheap? Ridiculous? This is not about a certain branch of Christianity being a bit wackier than the others; this is about child rapists being protected. There are no cheap shots here.
Any apologists for the Catholic Church over this issue should seriously re-evaluate their stance.
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Being Catholic I would consider myself a part of that institution and I feel very guilty about what the Catholic church has done in the past and i dont feel your giving Catholicism a fair chance I agree tho that there must be reform and they guilty parties should be jailed.
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And now they cast a 404 spell on that webpage...
Nice. The Church washes its hands and lets the few bishops who got caught get crucified for things others probably knew about and/or practised. No solidarity among sinners, eh?
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I've updated the URL.
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Is that proven by hard evidence?
Are there documents? documents signed that can be compared to the handwriting of the pope to prove it was actually him that signed for the protection of these bad apples? Do we have any high officials on video or audio tape ordering cover ups?
Bsides suspicion, and insinuation, what real evidence is there?
In court you can't have someone convicted without real hard evidence either remember.
Just look at that guy who had over 70 witnesses testifying against him but was aquitted by the Jury because there was no real evidence like blood spatter or the abillity of placing the gun in his had.
Not proven guilty = innocent That's a fair system, the Catholic church does not get this fair treatment. Everyone in the world just goes: they are all evil child molesting pedophiles!
I can't understand how You, of all people, can condemn generalizations, and people shouting: muslems are evil terrorists raaaaaah, yet in the other thread basicly say: The entire catholic church is a group of child molesting douchebags raaaaaaaaaaaah
Either all generalizations are bad, including the ones about the Roman Catholic church, or all are acceptable, you can't take the moral high ground and attack generalizations of one group, and later generalise the Catholic Church
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Yes, we have a letter from the Pope when he was Head of the Inquisition ordering all bishops not to go to the police with any abuse cases brought to their attention under threat of excommunication. The German Justice Minister has said that the Vatican is continuing to sabotage their investigations into abuses and the Murphy Report in Ireland damned the Catholic Church for protecting abusers from the police and moving them from parish to parish, enabling to abuse thousands of children.
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And from when are these incidents?
I'm pretty sure the current Church is adapting to modern times.
Let's not forget the Greeks in general once accepted sex with young boys, and Afghans today, like to have young boys as compangions whom they dress up as girls, and put make up on, and then force to dance and have sex with them afterwards.
It's wrong what those priests did, verry wrong, but how many priests are there worldwide? and how many are proven pederasts?
Praeses
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Pedophilia has been considered wrong for a lot longer than just 'modern times'.
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