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    Default Can anything be done about the campaign map?

    I think I already know the answer but against hope I ask because maybe, just maybe...

    Why is the NTW map so foggy? ETW had the occasional passing cloud but the NTW coalitions campaign map is constantly shrouded in fog. I don't mean the fog of war, just the fog. You can't see the details of cities and other ground features well because of it. Character figures can be seen with their upper torso coming out of the fog, but from the waist down they're lost in mists. I can't seem to get a clear picture of stuff. It makes my eyes water.

    Add to that the fact that I can't zoom out the way I did in ETW, or for that matter M2TW, for a panoramic view of the map; the camera only zooms out so far to a view that for my taste is still too close to the ground and "from the horizon" (i.e. lateral). It shows only a small portion of the map. With the huge empires one controls on that map, getting a strategic overview is too hard. Especially with the fog.

    So my hopeless questions are: a) Can the fog be removed or reduced? b) Can the camera be made to zoom out as it's supposed to? I've started a few games but I don't seem able to continue them (because I feel all "fogged out" ).

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    Default Re: Can anything be done about the campaign map?

    You could try reducing the particle effects or texture quality.
    I can't remember exactly which, but reducing one of those two should reduce or remove most of the fog.
    the only downside would be the reduced quality in battles, so i suppose its a trade off.

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    Default Re: Can anything be done about the campaign map?

    Quote Originally Posted by caralampio View Post
    I think I already know the answer but against hope I ask because maybe, just maybe...

    Why is the NTW map so foggy? ETW had the occasional passing cloud but the NTW coalitions campaign map is constantly shrouded in fog. I don't mean the fog of war, just the fog. You can't see the details of cities and other ground features well because of it. Character figures can be seen with their upper torso coming out of the fog, but from the waist down they're lost in mists. I can't seem to get a clear picture of stuff. It makes my eyes water.

    Add to that the fact that I can't zoom out the way I did in ETW, or for that matter M2TW, for a panoramic view of the map; the camera only zooms out so far to a view that for my taste is still too close to the ground and "from the horizon" (i.e. lateral). It shows only a small portion of the map. With the huge empires one controls on that map, getting a strategic overview is too hard. Especially with the fog.

    So my hopeless questions are: a) Can the fog be removed or reduced? b) Can the camera be made to zoom out as it's supposed to? I've started a few games but I don't seem able to continue them (because I feel all "fogged out" ).
    It was a foggy age with the fog of horror called Napoleon Bonaparte is going over Europe mate ...
    But to your question now serious: Beside this what Bryanrows wrote you can do nothing. It is a feature given with NTW to bring more atmosphere ...

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    Default Re: Can anything be done about the campaign map?

    In your data\campaign_maps\nap_europe\display\fogmask there is a fogmask.dds file that I suspect can be changed to remove the fog effect.

    Make a backup of the vanilla fogmask.dds file.

    Then darken the white\grey areas or turn it all black and most of the fog should be gone.

    Save in pixel format L8

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    Default Re: Can anything be done about the campaign map?

    Quote Originally Posted by ♔Mandelus♔ View Post
    It is a feature given with NTW to bring more atmosphere ...

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    Someone understood the hidden irony I wrote ...

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    Default Re: Can anything be done about the campaign map?

    Here's the reverse of what I told you to do.




    Not sure if playing around with the fogmask has any other side effects, I would say not.

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    Default Re: Can anything be done about the campaign map?

    Eureka! That's it. No fog on the ground, just the high wispy clouds. + rep


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    Quote Originally Posted by Modestus View Post
    Here's the reverse of what I told you to do.




    Not sure if playing around with the fogmask has any other side effects, I would say not.
    hahaha. that's weird I never had an issue with fog being too thick.

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    Maybe becuase its Winter...........

    I never see fog around June or March...

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    Default Re: Can anything be done about the campaign map?

    Woh modestus, which heightmap was that? Noone as far as i know has acheived that?

    C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\napoleon total war\data\campaign_maps\nap_europe\display\Heightmap?

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    Default Re: Can anything be done about the campaign map?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josst View Post
    Woh modestus, which heightmap was that? Noone as far as i know has acheived that?

    C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\napoleon total war\data\campaign_maps\nap_europe\display\Heightmap?
    Yes that's the one.

    A few basic maps in the display folder that you can work with but as you can see height has nothing to do with the impassibility of the terrain.

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