The medieval province of Dacia
Few people know about the medieval province of Dacia
let's see what is about
http://www.jggj.dk/
http://www.jggj.dk/CDSD.htm
http://www.jggj.dk/HOPD.htm
Historia ordinis predicatorum in Dacia
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Notes and comments:
[1] Translation of the word Dacia is often problematic, not least in regard of Dominican history, as medieval texts use it for both the kingdom of Denmark and for the entire region of Scandinavia. In this last sense, Dacia became the official name for the Nordic provinces of both the Dominicans and the Franciscans, which besides Denmark included the kingdoms of Norway and Sweden, as well as the duchies of Schleswig, Finland and Estonia. If any of the orders had established convents on Iceland - or Greenland even - that would have been ‘Dacian’ too. Until now, all transcripts have in their titles changed Dacia to some form of Dania, a post-medieval term for Denmark alone, but in my oppinion, this is wrong, as the chronicle clearly includes Sweden and Estonia too - and to some degree even Norway - and with the list of the first priors provincials, it is evidently concerned with the entire province of Dacia.
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on the other hand we have a medieval chronicle:
Dudonis de St.Quentin
De moribus et actis primorum Normannorum ducum
Historia Normannorum
1015-1030
in english ( translation from latin)
http://www.the-orb.net/orb_done/dudo/dudindex.html
we find out:
chapter 2
There the Hister is called the Danube, a river rising from the apex of mount Adnoa, increasing profusely in a large number of streams and passing, tempestuous, from south to east and separating Germania from Scythia until it is taken back into the Black Sea.
Thus, spread over the plentiful space from the Danube to the neighborhood of the scythian Black Sea, do there inhabit fierce and barbarous nations, which are said to have burst forth in manifold variety like a swarm of bees from a honeycomb or a sword from a sheath, as is the barbarian custom, from the island of Scania, surrounded in different directions by the ocean. For indeed there is there a tract for the very many people of Alania, and the extremely well-supplied region of Dacia, and the very extensive passage of Greece. Dacia is the middle-most of these. Protected by very high alps in the manner of a crown and after the fashion of a city. With Mars' forewarning, raging warlike peoples inhabit those tortuous bends of extensive size, namely the Getae, also known as Goths, Sarmatians and Amacsobii, Tragoditae and Alans, and also very many nations who live by cultivating in the Baltic marshes. (note 2)
For these nations, greatly inflamed by lascivious unchastity, and ravishing very many women with singular baseness, by performing in this way, men beget from them countless filthy offspring through mingling in a union of unlawful sexual union. These offspring, who would have been superfluous had they continued after they had come to maturity by holdings of goods to dwell in the inadequate land which they inhabited, savagely fighting against their fathers and their grandfathers or more often amongst themselves, are driven out by lot - the multitude of those reaching puberty having been brought together - according to long-standing usage (note 3) , into the realms of foreign nations to obtain for themselves in battle realms whereby they might be able to live in never-ending peace, as did, for instance, the Getae, Goths who pillaged almost all of Europe up to where they now reside.
(note 2). Preferring the "in meotidibus" of Rouen 1173 and others; the "Meotic Marshes" are frequently the Sea of Azov but can also refer to the Baltic.
and the original latin text:
http://la.wikisource.org/wiki/De_mor...mannorum_ducum
Observations:
1. from the english translation we recognize in the description of the Dacia along with the Danube, Black Sea and the Carpatian mountains the homeland of normans ( danish, norvegian, swedish = viking peoples)
2. in the original latin text we find out the following names for the scandinavians:
Dacia, Datia for the country
for the people:
gentilitatis dacigena
dacisce gentis populus ....
dacos, dacorum, dacosque
VVillelmus dux dacorum
Alstignus dux dacorum
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