World - 3dstudio max's scripts

[wilddog]

Ive looked at this tool along with IWTE and Argantanios tool and this looks the most comprehensible... +rep as always

You do understand that Argantanio never made any tools as they were done by KnightErrant (and subsequently developed for IWTE) and while this tool addresses Techtree slots so is building upwards versus IWTE is addressing world files for settlements and is developing downwards towards the simpler things. Consequently IWTE does come with a warning not for people who who don't understand the basics of the different world files.

point is simply its not exactly a like alike for comparison.

[Nesimî]

Building upwards appeals more to me

[wilddog]

Building upwards appeals more to me

No problem. Johnwhile's put a lot of time into the tool and it supports 3DSmax.
I was only raising the point around the comparisons as the tools don't exactly do the same thing.

[Nesimî]

Allrighty.. Ive been translating the tutorial but it only teaches how to do the terrain.. not buildings...

[wilddog]

Allrighty.. I've been translating the tutorial but it only teaches how to do the terrain.. not buildings...

Whoops, I forgot he asked us about terrain. Hadn't realised as most of the earlier questions were on the tech tree buildings (IWTE works with milkshape so we haven't really been using much 3DSmax)... my mistake.
IWTE leaves most of that bit to standard TGA editing.

[johnwhile]

Whoops, I forgot he asked us about terrain. Hadn't realised as most of the earlier questions were on the tech tree buildings (IWTE works with milkshape so we haven't really been using much 3DSmax)... my mistake.
IWTE leaves most of that bit to standard TGA editing.

the TGA solution is more simple, i utilized max because is too simple for me work only with max...

This is a rebuilded script (for 32 bit version, 64 bit version don't work with interface of Box Editor, Complex edit, ecc... because i must convert the code but at the moment isn't my preoccupation )

Now the script work with Big data example with 270000 vertices in only 10 seconds ! all objects are also converted in "box mode view", to show the default mesh is sufficient go to object property and check the "box mode to off", this's because it slows max.
Now i'm adding the Game Objects structure of settlements, example for north_european_village_a.world, but for very big settlements (more then 500000 vertices) i must make another solution, maxScript can't operate with these numbers of data.

The tool of Wilddog is essential for my work because only with his tool i can understand the structure of files !!

[Nesimî]

Hmm he gave me the one on buildings but its very long and in italian.. I better get my grammer swastika on, because google translate comes up with some strange sentances

[johnwhile]

Hmm he gave me the one on buildings but its very long and in italian.. I better get my grammer swastika on, because google translate comes up with some strange sentances

i prefer write the tutorial only when i finish my script, many things are rebuilded (because I'm learning to write with maxscript) so i prefer wait.
Some information like Bounding Sphere, texture ecc... are automatically recalculated and don't appear in max scene, this is because i prefer not overload the scene with unnecessary objects so Is obvious that in max is more clear , but i'm not guarantee that everything works at 100%, for a 100% changes you must utilize the wilddog tool

[johnwhile]

@Wilddog:
Hi, is more than a week that I can't find the error, I don't understand how to edit and create a village (with minimum information).
I only add to church_32_32.word the Game Objects Section of original north_european_village_a.world, with my script is all ok but your tool give me a error....
I rebuilt the script and now works faster and clear, i'm sorry but i can't understand a lot of data from villages....
i also create a re.elaborated village to check data but in the game crash http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IEWMRV50
Can you help me to find the error ?
For simple boulding all is ok but when i add to the script the new game object section all crash for settlement.world files.

[Nesimî]

I dont understand IWTE at all...

[johnwhile]

is sufficient a little tutorial, I use only what I need as text conversion, is complicated for those who have never analyzed the converted text file, if you know how the world files is structured you will understand all the functions of IWTE

[johnwhile]

I think to found the solution of Bottom Table 3, i think is stored the real sequence of objects, until now I believed that only table 2 give the sequence but look these exemple:
I found a incongruence with the name:
Attachment 102854
but this is because in the bottom table 3 there are a different sequence of the name !!:
Attachment 102855
In fact if i merge the worldcollision sequence:
Attachment 102892

[wilddog]

I think to found the solution of Bottom Table 3, i think is stored the real sequence of objects, until now I believed that only table 2 give the sequence but look these exemple:

Yes table 3 identifies the object number sequence. Table 2 simply lists by object number and shows some of their attributes. Looking at IWTE and loading the NE _village in then looking at the objects window you would of seen this on Complex3 as the structures within the complex are mixed up.

[johnwhile]

Yes table 3 identifies the object number sequence. Table 2 simply lists by object number and shows some of their attributes. Looking at IWTE and loading the NE _village in then looking at the objects window you would of seen this on Complex3 as the structures within the complex are mixed up.

Infact, the Famous Argantonio sum of triangles at the end of each complex now is correct if i analyze the real sequence of "Objects".

[johnwhile]

ok, so bottom table 3 mixes the "Objects + damage phase" order, but Complex and structure is utilize per texture, Bounding Sphere and Box.

[johnwhile]

ALL OK ! In fact now all "Objects" and "Animations" match in the attachments i put an example of settlements imported, so i must rewrite the "save" functions and finally i can test in the game the new settlements
In the future i will make a little tutorial, small because in max i have simplified everything, the modder must know only now put information and name of objects and all these information are automatically recalculate, so the work is very hard (hard for me because i learned MaxScript by scratch just for this occasion)

[Remlap]

You finished it? Thats excellent news great work! and even if your not finished your still doing some amazing work! I don't comprehend script at all

[johnwhile]

No, isn't finished... but now i finally correct the real structure of complex, structure, objects ecc.... i think now the work will be faster, obviously according to my spare time.
Understand how it works will be very simple.

[Remlap]

Ahhh well even so I find it absolutly brilliant you can do this

[johnwhile]

the Last version with the real name of objects , i make some improvement for small village or small castle but crasch.... is very frustrating find the very small bug... with IWTE the structure is correct but there are some problem with "Argantonio Sum"...