Why do most hosts "dump" games before a shot is even fired?

Alright, I've just about had it with you so-called "Leet" players! Every time I get into a game with a guy who has a ton of stars and claims to be an elite player, he "dumps" the game before I have a chance to fire even one shot at him in anger! Out of the many games I played today, only one lasted long enough for any actual fire to be exchanged! Sup With That?, who is supposedly somewhat of a "newb", is the only one that had the balls to actually see a game through long enough to see that the day would inevitably be mine (and I even "camped" a little on him unlike the other games I played today), and he put up one hell of a fight I might add! Anyway, I'm beginning to wonder who the true "newbs" really are, new players who fight it out against all odds, or the so-called "Leet" players who "dump" the game the second they've been outmaneuvered by a superior foe!

Haha, you're really bigging me up man. I played a game earlier today where, after the main battle had ended and I had 2/3 of my army left, the player opposite me ran two depleted units to either end of the map and proceeded to allow the clock to run out so he could draw.

That my friend, is a 'newb'.

P.S, I was really enjoying that match against you, it was good heated combat. That's why I like to get right up in the other player's face, worst case scenario is that I lose and learn something from my mistakes. Hardly anything to lose.

Unfortunately Sup With That?, that "newb" that pulled the "stall for a draw" tactic on you today appears to be more the norm on Napoleon Total War Online than the exception!



As I said earlier, I haven't had a game as exciting as the one we played in weeks! Your extremely aggressive style seems to suit you very well indeed, mainly because you're able to play aggressively without making many mistakes, something that usually takes hours and hours of diligent practice. It's possible that you're just a natural tactician (some people are), in which case your potential is limitless. One thing is for sure though, as anyone on this forum will attest, my praise is extremely hard to win! For a player with your very limited experience, you play EXCEPTIONALLY well!

Originally Posted by Major Hemorrhoid

Unfortunately Sup With That?, that "newb" that pulled the "stall for a draw" tactic on you today appears to be more the norm on Napoleon Total War Online than the exception!

As I said earlier, I haven't had a game as exciting as the one we played in weeks! Your extremely aggressive style seems to suit you very well indeed, mainly because you're able to play aggressively without making many mistakes, something that usually takes hours and hours of diligent practice. It's possible that you're just a natural tactician (some people are), in which case your potential is limitless. One thing is for sure though, as anyone on this forum will attest, my praise is extremely hard to win!

It's greatly appreciated, trust me. I played a 2v2 with Scipio against Blonkers and Point_Man earlier and my aggressiveness was my undoing. It was my first time playing as GB and I can safely say I was thoroughly undone within about five minutes of contact. My entire army was pretty much out of range from the outset, not to mention half the width of his line...one suicidal cav charge later im outflanked and destroyed.

I play well on maps with terrain (like Waterloo) because I can find more opportunities using the terrain itself, plus the whole thing is just more interesting.

My main weak points:
- Using Arty effectively (My howie did well lime shotting your guys, though).
-Coping with being severely out ranged

My (I feel) main strong points:
- Using fake cav charges to force line into squares (I've epic failed trying, though)
- Absorbing as much detail as I can from each defeat.

That position you had on Waterloo is really hard to deal with, though, especially with that ridge on your far left that overlooks my advance point. I think I lost a lot of my line needlessly standing around there.

It will take you somewhat longer to gain skill playing on maps with less terrain features to work with, Sup With That?. You'll need to learn how to use cavalry and skirmishers/light infantry effectively to have any hope of succeeding on a flat featureless or flat semi-featureless map. However, don't get discouraged. You've only been playing a couple of days and those guys have been playing for months! I think all involved would have to admit that you're doing very well for a player with such limited experience!


Plus of course, you had Scipio_Africanus on your team which translates into a severe handicap for you!


As far as your positioning in our game on the Waterloo map goes, it was somewhat flawed, but not terribly so. I simply used the small forward ridge (located about 100 yards from your deployment zone) on our left flank as protection for my two howitzers and moved them into an enfilading position against your main army. After that, it was pretty easy to weaken your units by shelling and "sniping" them and then to advance my line infantry into range of your main units after my skirmishers and artillery fire had weakened them, which of course led to most of your infantry routing at the main point of contact, helped along by a couple of timely cavalry charges by my lancers. I agree that if you had focused your main attack on our right flank, you would have given us a VERY tough time, because since my teammate was obviously retarded he had almost no defense set up at all on our right flank or right center! I however did see his mistake and rushed as many units as I could spare to fill in the gaping hole that he had left in our center and part of our right flank.

What you have to remember though Sup With That? is that, since my teammate was obviously severely retarded, I was having to hold almost the entire length of our line by myself while the bulk of his army was still on the ridge, or even behind it! I think he halfhearterdly tried to hold Huogomont with a couple of units, but I even had to rush units all the way across the map to help him do that! You guys were FAR more coordinated than we were. Still, that was a very good effort you put forth, since you guys nearly broke through my lines and normally I can pretty much hold the entire ridge (actually, I always set up my lines at varying depths and between 100 and 300 yards forward of the main ridge) by myself against two or sometimes even three opponents (depending on how "newbish" they are) without NEARLY as many problems as you guys gave me!

Hmmm. Ten games played today and a probable nine "rage quits", and only two games actually lasting long enough for fire to be exchanged! My game against Sup With That? and his teammate was obviously plagued by a connection problem, but that game did at least last long enough to see who would be the eventual victor. In each of the nine other games I played today, including the one I just finished, my opponent/opponents "rage quit" just a few minutes into the game! In the eight previous games I played earlier today, the host "rage quit" as soon as he could make out what units I had brought and could see that I knew how to maneuver them properly (even though I ALWAYS strictly adhere to any rules laid down by the host). In the last game, the guy opposite me set up his horse artillery and howitzers and was trying to put it to my infantry (and my cavalry and general's bodyguard unit which he was trying to "snipe"), but with little effect. Through my clever use of terrain and different unit formations, his artillery was having little effect. I calmly moved up my five howitzer batteries into perfect position to blast his artillery to hell, and "viola"! "Rage quit"! What the hell is that all about? The only rules in the game were no fixed artillery and only five skirmisher/light infantry units allowed per player, which I dilligently followed! Of course, my overall army strength was severely weakened because of a lack of funds (artillery units cost a TON), but I was willing to deal with that handicap in order to bring more long range firepower to the battle. Bringing five or even ten artillery units is no different than bring five or ten skimishers, five or ten light infantry, five or ten cavalry, or even five or ten line infantry units! They all have their strengths and weaknesses and the whole point of the game is to get good enough to use your selected units' strengths to your advantage and exploit the weaknesses of your opponent's strategy, tactics, and army build in order to achieve ultimate victory!

I'm really getting fed up with the many retards who play Napoleon Total War Online and "rage quit" the second the battle turns the least bit against them, or even sooner in many cases! Napoleon Total War Online is quickly becoming unplayable, thanks to the massive number of "rage quitting" crybabies inhabiting the Steam gaming platform.

Ah, The game truly is a delight when one finds an honorable foe, sadly that is not often the case. That said however, I never seem to find any of you distinguished gentlemen online to engage in right honorable battle. Sup With That? (or any of you fine gentlemen) I would deem it a fine thing to be able to engage you on the glorious field of battle, is your steam name the same as your name here? I know it is utterly futile to ask The Major's name, It being a state secret whose disclosure would seriously compromise our agents in the field.

Originally Posted by Lt.Hawke

Ah, The game truly is a delight when one finds an honorable foe, sadly that is not often the case. That said however, I never seem to find any of you distinguished gentlemen online to engage in right honorable battle. Sup With That? (or any of you fine gentlemen) I would deem it a fine thing to be able to engage you on the glorious field of battle, is your steam name the same as your name here? I know it is utterly futile to ask The Major's name, It being a state secret whose disclosure would seriously compromise our agents in the field.

Sure, add me. Sup_With_That is my steam name, I'll invite you to some 3v3 matches or something. Failing that I'll give you a 1v1.

Originally Posted by Sup With That?

Sure, add me. Sup_With_That is my steam name, I'll invite you to some 3v3 matches or something. Failing that I'll give you a 1v1.

Many thanks.

People "dump" games because they are either cowards, quitters, or just very very anal. Cowards and quitters just quit when they "feel" like they're losing, so they just run away because they think it's not "worth their time" since they're going to "lose anyways". Anal people are usually the good players who have this solid plan in their heads that they want to implement and as soon as they see they can't implement it or some MINOR thing goes wrong, they quit. Frankly the anal ones are the ones that piss me off because they quit alot unless things are PERFECTLY in their favor.

Yes Lt.Hawke, if the enemy were to find out my true identity, many lives would be forfeited.


Sup With That? would be a good opponent for you. He only "rage quits" after he's been thoroughly thrashed, so I would say he's about as close to an honorable opponent (other than Scipio_Africanus and the Point_Man, but they of course never lose) as you'll find at the present time on Napoleon Total War Online. Actually, thoroughly thrashing Sup With That? may be easier said than done now that the cursed GODS clan have trained him in their evil ways and ruined the fun for everyone! This is for you GODS clan!



By the way Lt.Hawke, I believe I have already played you several times online, and found you to be a exceedingly honorable opponent. I think you and Sup With That? were my only non-"rage quitting" opponents last week. Oddly enough, you were probably the two guys I played who were newest to NTW also (since I love to prey on eight and nine star players ). Whatever you do, don't let these so called players' attitudes rub off on you!


I think you've pretty well summed up about 99% of the players on Napoleon Total War Online tenjouten!

Originally Posted by Major Hemorrhoid

(other than Point_Man, but they of course never lose) as you'll find at the present time on Napoleon Total War Online.

I remember joining that 2v, Point - I was not pleased when I saw your name.

One of those matches where you know you've lost before it starts.

Originally Posted by Sup With That?

I remember joining that 2v, Point - I was not pleased when I saw your name.

One of those matches where you know you've lost before it starts.

Everyone has that feeling against my friend The Asthma Kid

I finally got a host (other than Sup With That?) to go more than a couple of minutes without "rage quitting" on me! This guy and his partner (who had obviously tried their lame strategy before) spammed the hell out of rockets and other artillery and old guard infantry, and I bring a relatively balanced army (somewhat artillery heavy) with four howitzers as my artillery contingent. It's the Pyramids map, so I quickly capture the hill on our right flank and move my howitzers into position on the crest of the hill. The host and his teammate deploy at the rear of their spawn and form up into some kind of weird defensive formation with stakes surrounding their entire army! Anyway, while all of their massed artillery focused on one of my line units (all of my units were deployed on a reverse slope and deployed in thin lines and therefore suffered minimal damage from their massive grand battery's barrage) I calmly moved my four howitzers up and opened fire! Within a couple of minutes I destroyed all of their rocket batteries and routed several surrounding units. All of a sudden they launch a massed cavalry charge with their few remaining cavalry units on our left flank, and are driven off with heavy losses when I and my teammate counter-charge their cavalry with our lancers. By now, I've destroyed almost all of their remaining artillery, and routed several more units with my howitzers, including a couple of old guard infantry units! Anyway, just as we were about to launch a massive combined infantry and cavalry assault on what was left of their entrenched army, guess what happens? You guessed it! "Rage quit"! You would really think that after they spammed the hell out of all those rockets and other artillery and meticulously crafted their "impenetrable fort" they would at least have had the common courtesy of allowing us to finish crushing it! Besides, I think I had a legitimate shot at breaking my kill ratio record of 1,200+ kills to 80 losses (16:1) against those retards!

The "Asthma Kid" is NOTHING without his trusted sidekick, the "Whooping Cough Boy"! I think it's actually more of a smoker's cough though Point_Man, but "Smoker's Cough Boy" just doesn't have the right "ring" to it. I'm not sure the Asthma Kid appreciates all the smoke being blown in his face though!


Funny videos by the way Point_Man, but when do we get more?

Originally Posted by Major Hemorrhoid

The "Athsma Kid" is NOTHING without his trusted sidekick, the "Whooping Cough Boy"! I think it's actually more of a smoker's cough though Point_Man, but "Smoker's Cough Boy" just doesn't have the right "ring" to it. I'm not sure the Athsma Kid appreciates all the smoke being blown in his face though!


Funny videos by the way Point_Man, but when do we get more?

As soon as the people I faced "allows" me to post them lol

Well, I'll be impatiently waiting for more of your first rate videos Point_Man (and I'm sure others will be as well)!

Originally Posted by Major Hemorrhoid

Well, I'll be impatiently waiting for more of your first rate videos Point_Man (and I'm sure others will be as well)!

Perhaps the Asthma Kid and Whooping Cough Boy , could use a sidekick or perhaps a partner in 3v3 matches.

What would you say to that Major Hemmorrhoid?

Originally Posted by Major Hemorrhoid

Well, I'll be impatiently waiting for more of your first rate videos Point_Man (and I'm sure others will be as well)!

You'll find this funny ....hopefully

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z-4iJKWPAE