in the event of a draft, would you join the army?

[mongoose]

Suppose that you're country is being invaded, and a draft is issued. neither side is winning or losing at the moment, and you're Family is still in the country. would you join the army? lets say that the case for the war is very trival, such as the invader simply wanting to exapand it's borders.

Escape is not an option BTW.

[PROFESSORPAUL]

Yes.

Hopefully by that time I'm 16 or above. Still only 14. 15 in 2 months.

[Aaron88]

If it's a draft, don't you have to join, especially if you can't escape?

[Justinian]

Yes. Everyone loathes draft-dodgers.

[Darth Fungus]

I would volunteer. I figure, I'm gonna die one day anyway, so why not go out defending the country I love? Better that than be killed in some stupid way, like a car crash. No offense to anyone here who may have died in a car crash. Although I'd probably go out there with my camera, no weapon. I doubt that Mexico or Canada would ever want to invade the US to expand its borders. Mexico wouldn't cause it would be destroyed in like a day, and they have bigger problems on their hands than a war with the US. Canada, well Canada wouldn't cause they're all Canadian. ****ing bacon munchers. The real one to worry about is China, they have an army twice the size of ours, and they have nuclear weapons from Russia. And they're commies so naturally they don't like the US. And they want to get back all their cheaply made junk. And also we have lots of cats and dogs in this country, and for them it would be like if in china they kept cows and chickens as pets.......they do. That and they're really really short and could hide easily inside a cardboard FedEx box or a shipping crate of rice noodles. Sorry if that was extremely racist. Feel free to be racist back. I'm a Middle Class Jewish Irish Catholic American. And I really am all of those, right down to the stereotypes.

[Empedocles]

[QUOTE=Darth Fungus]No offense to anyone here who may have died in a car crash.QUOTE]

Do you know the exact username of someone who died in a car accident and may be reading this???

Regarding the question, it's a hard choice. I will probably not volunteer, but if they call me I will join the army.
But it depends of the invader. If it's USA or the UK I will join inmediatly, and probably travel a lot to blow something up in their homeland! (please no offense here).
Also I will reconsider the choice after I see the treatment to the civilians.

Diego, from Argentina

[Erik]

Yes. Everyone loathes draft-dodgers.

Like GWB?

[Custor]

If it's a draft, don't you have to join, especially if you can't escape?

As pointed out amongst the crap posts. It's a draft. Where's the choice?

[Atheist Peace]

No I would not join. Depending on the situation, I would either stand up and let them lock me in jail, or I might be a "draft-dodger" and go to canada. Whichever way would do the most to stop at least the draft, and if it was a situation like Vietnam, then the war too, would be the thing I would do.

[mongoose]

No I would not join. Depending on the situation, I would either stand up and let them lock me in jail, or I might be a "draft-dodger" and go to canada. Whichever way would do the most to stop at least the draft, and if it was a situation like Vietnam, then the war too, would be the thing I would do.

OK, but suppose that you have a family that for what ever reason is unable to leave the country. Would you stay to protect them?

And no, YOUR democratic country was invaded By some sort of fanatic monarch because he wants more slaves. Would you be willing to fight in that case?

Note:The purpose of this poorly though out thread was to cornor some of the pacifists in this forum into admiting that in some cases, fighting is a necessity.

[Atheist Peace]

OK, but suppose that you have a family that for what ever reason is unable to leave the country. Would you stay to protect them?

And no, YOUR democratic country was invaded By some sort of fanatic monarch because he wants more slaves. Would you be willing to fight in that case?

Note:The purpose of this poorly though out thread was to cornor some of the pacifists in this forum into admiting that in some cases, fighting is a necessity.

I would probably fight, but I would never, under any circumstances, even if refusing meant my own execution, join a military.

[Custor]

OK, but suppose that you have a family that for what ever reason is unable to leave the country. Would you stay to protect them?

And no, YOUR democratic country was invaded By some sort of fanatic monarch because he wants more slaves. Would you be willing to fight in that case?

Note:The purpose of this poorly though out thread was to cornor some of the pacifists in this forum into admiting that in some cases, fighting is a necessity.

Such conscientious objectors as those who man bomb disposal teams and are stretcher bearers?
Those poeple who think it's wrong to take another persons life but perform heroic war time duties at great personnel risk? You having a pop at them for some cheasy macho crap?

Any :wub: can say yes. It's unpatriotic to say no. Everyone says yes. Shpw some balls and say no I dare you.

[First Crusader]

The problem with the next draft is the fact that women are going to have to be in it.

This is one serious problem that feminists refuse to acknowledge is that priviledges come with responsibility.

The military is so desperate for manpower right now, that they are bringing their women into combat positions, even though they aren't supposed to. So what is keeping them from putting women in the draft?

I think this is on topic, if not, I'll make a different thread for it.

[Atheist Peace]

The problem with the next draft is the fact that women are going to have to be in it.

This is one serious problem that feminists refuse to acknowledge is that priviledges come with responsibility.

Finally something we can agree on. Having a draft and only making men go is one of the most sexist things possible anyways.

[First Crusader]

Finally something we can agree on. Having a draft and only making men go is one of the most sexist things possible anyways.

So tricking girls into going into a warzone thinking everything is perfectly safe ISN'T sexist? :laughing:

[invictus]

LOL, i would not join, regardless of the situation, unless i loved the country i live in which i dont so i could care less, i would in fact join the other side -Leon

[meh_cd]

I'd only go if the US were invaded. No way in hell I'm letting them send me to Iraq. (Funny, because last week I just signed up at http://www.sss.gov./)

[AznRedRooster]

Even though you dont want to kill anybody in a war there are other things you can do in the military, like doing logistical stuff. The military isn't simply about the grunt work. Also you can join the Navy before the Army drafts you, so you'll be practically out of the way. I am not a big person the military would probably put me in a logistical role where I dont have do any of the grunt work in killing others.

[Erik]

For those who think avoiding the draft is always bad, how about this example:

In 1947 and 1949 the Dutch fought in Java and Sumatra to "protect their national interest". (basically killing indonesians who wanted independance).
Some men refused to go because they beleived it was wrong, and today everybody agrees with them.

So, do you think those guys did the wrong thing by not fighting to keep our colonies to Indonesia?

[mongoose]

I'm not trying to say that draft dodging is always wrong. Some times, it is the right thing to do. How ever, what i'm also saying is that some times fighting for your country is a necessity. Blind pacfisim and blind agression are both wrong.

statements such "I would always join the army even if the President went crazy and orderd the millitary to attack the citizens" Or "I would never fight, even if the war was totally defensive" Are very annoying :sweatingb