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    United Azerbaijani Lands (Birləşmiş Azərbaycan Yurdları)



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    .... ok ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by garudamon11 View Post
    .... ok ?
    Yeah?

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    A nationalist wet dream. It will never happen.

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    lol foreigners

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    Why not.

    Russians gave west to Armenians, actually settled them there forcefully from Ottoman and Persian territories, gave south to Iran, Borchali to Georgia and took Derbent for itself for strategical purposes. Population are still Azerbaijani Turk in those areas except for Armenia in result of ethnic cleansing.

    A revolt in Georgia and Iran are highly possible. I believe at least those areas will join Azerbaijan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djigit123 View Post
    Why not.

    Russians gave west to Armenians, actually settled them there forcefully from Ottoman and Persian territories, gave south to Iran, Borchali to Georgia and took Derbent for itself for strategical purposes. Population are still Azerbaijani Turk in those areas except for Armenia in result of ethnic cleansing.

    A revolt in Georgia and Iran are highly possible. I believe at least those areas will join Azerbaijan.
    Still no. Anyway, do you have any evidence of genocide being comitted against the Azeri's in Armenia proper or is it the regular ranting against armenians?

    Anyway I find it hillarious that this actually claims that Armenia is Azeri land That's like saying all of Greece is turkish too.
    Last edited by Tiberios; May 14, 2010 at 06:38 AM.

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    djigit123 , what did you expect other than negative replies for this ?

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    so what is the the point? Massacare all the Armenians, beat the crap out of Iran and with the extra troops available, invade Georgia? Sounds like a plan.....
    I am sure Azerbeycan then will be very powerfull. It will be worth every dead person to have an Azerbeycan with larger borders. It will look very cool on the map as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djigit123 View Post
    United Azerbaijani Lands (Birləşmiş Azərbaycan Yurdları)



    irredentism like this won't happen,it is just a pan-turkist dream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djigit123 View Post
    United Azerbaijani Lands (Birləşmiş Azərbaycan Yurdları)

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    And how do you propose to ensure that the Armenian will willingly give up their country to you? Or for that matter the Iranian's, have you even thought this through.
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    Is it me or does that map include Tehran?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djigit123 View Post
    Iranians? These areas are populated by Azeri Turks.
    Still ruled by central Iranian authority

    I very much doubt Ahmadinejad wil willingly sacrifice land to some backwater Caucasus country.
    All of the map are except Armenia. About Armenia, its based on western Azerbaijan.
    Ah, it's time for this myth once again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by That Dutch guy View Post
    Still ruled by central Iranian authority

    I very much doubt Ahmadinejad wil willingly sacrifice land to some backwater Caucasus country.

    Ah, it's time for this myth once again.
    What will he do? Kill quarter of Iran?

    Well, no. You might google "Khanates of Azerbaijan", just prior to Russian invasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djigit123 View Post
    What will he do? Kill quarter of Iran?
    Assuming every single Azerbaijani will support Azerbaijan if it tries something stupid like invading or annexing the territories?

    Even if every single one of them wished to be united with Azerbaijan proper the Iranians would still outnumber and outgun them, any revolt would be crushed, and I very much doubt Azerbaijan would risk a war with Iran.
    Well, no. You might google "Khanates of Azerbaijan", just prior to Russian invasion.
    Yeah, because Google results are so reliable

    Besides, before Azerbaijan, Armenians lived in most of the country you now call Azerbaijan, why is it that historical claims are only valid when made by Azerbaijanis?
    Last edited by Koelkastmagneet; May 14, 2010 at 08:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djigit123 View Post
    What will he do? Kill quarter of Iran?


    Yeah, because Google results are so reliable

    Besides, before Azerbaijan, Armenians lived in most of the country you now call Azerbaijan, why is it that historical claims are only valid when made by Azerbaijanis?
    Well, go and read about Khanates of Azerbaijan wherever you want and see its maps. Its just prior to Russian invasion.

    Armenians lived in most of modern day Azerbaijan?

    You got it the other way around.

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    How is this even possible? Azerbaijan got their butt kicked against the Armenians, a smaller country, and now you think of invading north of Iran.

    At the End I see Azerbaijan gone from the map, which will be divided between Iranians and Armenians.


    I hope this government isnt as mad as some of its nationalists here on twc.

    And there is no sign of the Iranian azerbaijanis wanting to become independant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djigit123 View Post
    Iranians? These areas are populated by Azeri Turks.

    All of the map are except Armenia. About Armenia, its based on western Azerbaijan.
    I meant Iranian in the political sense not the ethnic sense, i find that defining nationality on ethnicity leads to a whole world of potential contradictions and hatred. So i stick to the political identification.

    As for the Armenia fallacy you've just put out.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Armenia

    190BC, way before any Turkic migration or any self declared Azeri state, when it comes to historical precedence, the Armenian's have the all the cards when it comes to an actual recognised state.
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    No Not gonna happen... The Azerbajiani (sp?) reminds me of a Kurd family i knew...

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    Funny.


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