[HoI2] D-Day Conditions?

[shirajzl]

What are the conditions for AI to launch the D-Day invasion?

I was playing as Germany, expecting their attack which never happened. Both UK and USA still exist, they are both allied and in war with me.

However, I'm in control of the British Isle, i.e. the Brits only have a part of Africa and India...Is that what stopped the D-Day?

[abbews]

Umm, what do you think? D-Day was launched from the british isle, so yes, it's your fault.

[Aonghus G. Friedhold]

No, the British will launch D-Day from Peru if the British Isles are taken.

[Landsknecht_88]

Is the AI actually capable of making a landing that won't be pushed back easily? I have always won over Russia by 1942 in my games as Germany, so I have seldom continued playing until 1944.

[hellheaven1987]

Depends. I only saw US landed on France twice in every ten games, and generally Germany left France completely defendless hence it was easy victory for US AI.

[Pious Agnost]

Is the AI actually capable of making a landing that won't be pushed back easily? I have always won over Russia by 1942 in my games as Germany, so I have seldom continued playing until 1944.

For your answer.

Play as Italy, leave your continental coastlines undefended and try fight the Brits only in Africa.

I'd never been annexed before that.

[Niles Crane]

For your answer.

Play as Italy, leave your continental coastlines undefended and try fight the Brits only in Africa.

I'd never been annexed before that.

Fighting Russia is absolutely terrifying. Whenever I think I've amassed a large enough army, I make some progress but then history repeats itself and I find myself surrounded and on the retreat to Berlin.

[Landsknecht_88]

Fighting Russia is absolutely terrifying. Whenever I think I've amassed a large enough army, I make some progress but then history repeats itself and I find myself surrounded and on the retreat to Berlin.

How many divisions do you have? What difficulty do you play with? Any mods? I won my first German game in HoI2 without any problems, and now I can break the Russians in a few short months.

You need to actually Blitzkrieg them, if you merely push them back, they'll gain a lot of experience.

If you turn it into a war of attrition, you're not gonna win.

Germany is unrealistically strong in HoI2, so winning a war of attrition is possible. You can amass so much rare materials and oil that you won't have to worry about running out.

[hellheaven1987]

Fighting Russia is absolutely terrifying. Whenever I think I've amassed a large enough army, I make some progress but then history repeats itself and I find myself surrounded and on the retreat to Berlin.

Depends when you fight them. Generally, it is advised don't touch Russia after 1943 (remind my ultimate campaign of invading Soviet as Italy in 1944. The final battles are pretty much 100+ divisions fighting 100+ divisions each time).

[Niles Crane]

Whenever I play as Germany, the Americans always land near Denmark while the British simply bomb France and do nothing beyond that.

[Pious Agnost]

You need to actually Blitzkrieg them, if you merely push them back, they'll gain a lot of experience.

If you turn it into a war of attrition, you're not gonna win.

[Frederich Barbarossa]

You need to actually Blitzkrieg them, if you merely push them back, they'll gain a lot of experience.

If you turn it into a war of attrition, you're not gonna win.

Nonesense I won by just pushing them a bit and then bang!!!!!!!! GANGBANGED EM ALL THE WAY TO THE URALS!

[Frederich Barbarossa]

You need to actually Blitzkrieg them, if you merely push them back, they'll gain a lot of experience.

If you turn it into a war of attrition, you're not gonna win.

Oh w8 my bad THis is HOi 2

[Pious Agnost]

Manpower is the deciding factor in the kind of war of attrition I am thinking of.

[Niles Crane]

How many divisions do you have? What difficulty do you play with? Any mods? I won my first German game in HoI2 without any problems, and now I can break the Russians in a few short months.

It's actually been a couple years since I last played as Germany, or indeed, HOI2 (vanilla) but I'm pretty sure it was always normal and I had at least a hundred divisions. Playing the Russians against the Germans is always fun and easy though.

[Aonghus G. Friedhold]

So, yeah, how 'bout them Japs?

Note: Last time I checked the Ruskies massive army does not pertain to D-Day.

[JimmyHatfield]

does anyone know what the conditions for the AI to prosecute the Overlord invasion is? I am playing a game as Russia and its 1947 and still no allied presence in Europe, even though they took Africa immediately.

[Pious Agnost]

For the Americans

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

trigger = {
ai = yes
war = { country = GER country = USA }
NOT = { control = { province = 56 data = FRA } }# Paris
NOT = { local_flag = USADefense }
NOT = { local_flag = USADDay }
NOT = { local_flag = USAInvadeUK }
OR = {
AND = {
year = 1942
NOT = { year = 1943 }
land_percentage = { country = GER value = 0.5 }
OR = {
AND = {
war = { country = GER country = SOV }
lost_national = { country = SOV value = 38 }
}
AND = {
war = { country = GER country = SOV }
NOT = { lost_national = { country = SOV value = 1 } }
}
AND = {
war = { country = GER country = SOV }
NOT = { control = { province = 212 data = SOV } } # Minsk
OR = {
lost_national = { country = SOV value = 30 }
AND = {
NOT = { control = { province = 175 data = SOV } } # Moscow
NOT = { control = { province = 187 data = SOV } } # Leningrad
}
AND = {
NOT = { control = { province = 175 data = SOV } } # Moscow
NOT = { control = { province = 163 data = SOV } } # Stalingrad
}
AND = {
NOT = { control = { province = 187 data = SOV } } # Leningrad
NOT = { control = { province = 163 data = SOV } } # Stalingrad
}
}
lost_national = { country = SOV value = 25 }
}
}
}
AND = {
year = 1943
NOT = { year = 1944 }
land_percentage = { country = GER value = 0.6 }
OR = {
AND = {
war = { country = GER country = SOV }
lost_national = { country = SOV value = 38 }
}
AND = {
war = { country = GER country = SOV }
NOT = { lost_national = { country = SOV value = 1 } }
}
AND = {
war = { country = GER country = SOV }
NOT = { control = { province = 212 data = SOV } } # Minsk
OR = {
lost_national = { country = SOV value = 30 }
AND = {
NOT = { control = { province = 175 data = SOV } } # Moscow
NOT = { control = { province = 187 data = SOV } } # Leningrad
}
AND = {
NOT = { control = { province = 175 data = SOV } } # Moscow
NOT = { control = { province = 163 data = SOV } } # Stalingrad
}
AND = {
NOT = { control = { province = 187 data = SOV } } # Leningrad
NOT = { control = { province = 163 data = SOV } } # Stalingrad
}
}
lost_national = { country = SOV value = 25 }
}
}
}
AND = {
year = 1944
land_percentage = { country = GER value = 0.7 }
}
}
OR = {
control = { province = 56 data = GER } # Paris
control = { province = 44 data = GER } # Lille
control = { province = 72 data = GER } # Metz
}
OR = {
NOT = { exists = ENG }
AND = {
exists = ENG
war = { country = GER country = ENG }
OR = {
alliance = { country = ENG country = USA }
NOT = { war = { country = USA country = ENG } }
}
control = { province = 19 data = ENG } # London
control = { province = 23 data = ENG } # Plymouth

For it to be triggered in 1942, Germany must be at war with the US (lolderp) France must not control Paris (lolderp), the Soviets must be at war with the Germans the US army must be half the size of the German one, the Soviets must have lost 38% of their national provinces either the Soviets must not control Minsk, or they must not control any two combinations of Moscow, Leningrad or Stalingrad. Same applies in 1943 only the US Army must be 6/10ths the size of the German one, and then 7/10ths for it to be in 1944.

The UK must exist, and must be at war with Germany, the USA must be allied to the UK, and they must control both London and Plymouth.

I'm sure that's what that says, but someone can feel free to correct me.

[hellheaven1987]

Ya, although in reality it may not even happen at all even all conditions fulfill; on the other hand, I just saw US AI launch D-Days on Japan in 1944.

[Pious Agnost]

Yeah, to date I've NEVER seen an American D-Day.

Not one.

I guess that's because I'm usually the UK, Germany or the Soviets, and the whole affair is either handled by me, impossible or unnecessary, respectively