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    I'm relatively new around here but I'd like to suggest an idea for a mod. I find the Cuman Khanate's unit roster rather lacking in any exceptional units, their best units are supposedly Cuman Noblemen and Pencheng (Sp?) cavalry which aren't even that great IMO, their best units are the ones they share with the Rus (Cossacks). Here's a few things I thought could be added:

    -Give Cuman Horse Archers (And I guess Kazaks while we're at it) good stamina, they are horse archers after all.
    -Give Cuman Khanate some Mongol (Or mongol-esque) units to replace the Cossack units (Ex: Kipchak gunners, Kipchack heavy horse archers or something like that) that have similar stats but with a "Steppe tribes" appearance.
    -Improve Cuman Noblemen and Penchengs (Better stamina, slightly higher attack)
    -Make the soldiers speak with a mogolian accent, keep strat map voices.
    -Change requirements for victory, it's incredibly difficult to get to the Byzantine Empire as the Cumans and so many factions have to eliminate them anyway.

    So, any ideas? Thoughts?

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    Nice concept, as a Turtler and a rotten field general I've always found the Cumans situation untenable. If their horse archers could be enhanced
    a tad, with a little more beef in terms of ground pounders I think more folks would play the faction.

    Atm the moment it's definitely geared for expert level players...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mega Tortas de Bodemloze View Post
    Nice concept, as a Turtler and a rotten field general I've always found the Cumans situation untenable. If their horse archers could be enhanced
    a tad, with a little more beef in terms of ground pounders I think more folks would play the faction.

    Atm the moment it's definitely geared for expert level players...

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    Thanks, Stainlees Steel has re-invigorated my love for Total War. I can see myself playing this for many years to come.

    I also find their position makes them way too boring to play, almost no one attacks them and getting anywhere takes numerous turns. I remember playing the early era campaign as them and at turn forty-something I only had Kazan, Jaikisk, Yelabuga, that settlement just north of Kazan, Astrakhan, Embi, Bulgar, one other settlement (The name of which escapes me). I felt like I was making no progress because all of those settlements are extremely poor (Excluding Kazan) and I was nowhere near reaching the Byzantine Empire.

    Some more ideas:

    -Make the Mongols, Turks, Kievan Rus, and The Republic of Novgorod more aggresive toward the Cumans.
    -More tiny villages to conquer in-between their giant stretches of land (That is if the territory limit hasn't already been reached for Stainless Steel) like in the Teutonic Kingdoms expansion.
    -Conditions for victory: hold 25 (Or maybe thirty?) territories; Eliminate Factions: Kievan Rus, Republic of Novgorod.
    -Some slightly better infantry, although not too much better because they should stay a cavalry-focused faction. Maybe a swordsman unit that uses the mongol curved swords and wears lamellar.

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    The huge RR/RC Compilation has a new roster for them, including awesome HA and foot archers
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoulBlade View Post
    The huge RR/RC Compilation has a new roster for them, including awesome HA and foot archers
    I don't want to download RR, I don't want to wait multiple turns to get a single unit. Is there anyway to get this new roster without downloading RR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hippacrocafish View Post
    I don't want to download RR, I don't want to wait multiple turns to get a single unit. Is there anyway to get this new roster without downloading RR?
    No there isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caesar Clivus View Post
    No there isn't.
    Well that sucks, hopefully someone with some modding knowledge will have some interest in this idea, 'til then I'll settle for just messing around with their unit's stats.

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    Well it is an idea that I'm toying with for a future release of Battle for the Baltic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caesar Clivus View Post
    Well it is an idea that I'm toying with for a future release of Battle for the Baltic.
    Is there a tutorial on editing stats like stamina or morale? If you could direct me to such a tutorial maybe I can fix up the units to my liking. I'd like to get into doing some modding myself, but I know next to nothing about scripting (After I graduate high school I intend to go into game design as a career so why not get a head start right?). I already know how to change the melee attack and missle attack of units but that's about it.

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    If you know how to edit damage values, then you know about the EDU All unit stats can be edited there. At the top of the EDU there is a guide that tell you what each line in a unit's entry means

    If you want more tutorials, there are tons in the Mod Workshop: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=272

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caesar Clivus View Post
    If you know how to edit damage values, then you know about the EDU All unit stats can be edited there. At the top of the EDU there is a guide that tell you what each line in a unit's entry means

    If you want more tutorials, there are tons in the Mod Workshop: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=272
    I've moved the Mongol Horse archers to the Cumans in the stead of the Cossacks, but their unarmored version is missing their texture, I used the tutorial on moving units from one faction to another and I followed it exactly. What do you think the problem might be? Also, they don't speak so I need to know how to give them voices and I suppose how I can change all the Cuman units' voices to mongolian.

    Your help would be very much appreciated.

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