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    hey
    will this come true you think
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    Umm...what? No. No I don't. You are a silly person.
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    Umm...what? No. No I don't. You are a silly person.
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    Yeah so how is iran going to deal with all the sunnis in those lands? That and the fact Arabs and the Persians arn't known for getting along either.
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    The army/government of Iran has a hard enough time controlling it's people let alone invade a nation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiljan Arslan View Post
    Yeah so how is iran going to deal with all the sunnis in those lands? That and the fact Arabs and the Persians arn't known for getting along either.
    That is a simplistic view. It is the same view that allows people to believe that Iran wouldn't support Sunni terror groups in Iraq, when they did, and still might. And that they are not making nice with the various anti-US factions in Afghanistan.

    Not by 2017, but if the business of religious leadership is able to survive (which I dont think it will), despite the natural path towards progressive ideas by it's young population, then Iran will surely only continue to export it's already significant power. And although their military power on a regional scale is already formidable, the actual power they wield is as the voice for the region. Regardless of sect or denomination, the lower classes of other countries tend to follow Iran, as they are seen as the only Islamic power to truly stand up to the West. And as such, they still tap into dissent quite effectively.

    In that sense, the map above isn't totally outside the realm of possibility. And some people would argue, that if the religious leadership continues, it will do so by crushing resistance, emboldening itself further, and eventually tapping into the radical trend that exists in Islam right now. I mean, it really already is.

    The spread of 'empires' isn't always, or totally done by force, and no greater example are the Muslim empires of old. The level of piety that exists in Islam, has always allowed for this to happen. While other religions have waned in this respect, Islam has not. And there is no reason to believe that it cannot happen in modern times. After all, it is the hallmark of US foreign policy to prevent things like this, for good reason. And the rest of the world, not least of which, Iran's neighbors, are worried. First step in all of this, is becoming a nuclear power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarnabyJones View Post
    That is a simplistic view. It is the same view that allows people to believe that Iran wouldn't support Sunni terror groups in Iraq, when they did, and still might. And that they are not making nice with the various anti-US factions in Afghanistan.

    Not by 2017, but if the business of religious leadership is able to survive (which I dont think it will), despite the natural path towards progressive ideas by it's young population, then Iran will surely only continue to export it's already significant power. And although their military power on a regional scale is already formidable, the actual power they wield is as the voice for the region. Regardless of sect or denomination, the lower classes of other countries tend to follow Iran, as they are seen as the only Islamic power to truly stand up to the West. And as such, they still tap into dissent quite effectively.

    In that sense, the map above isn't totally outside the realm of possibility. And some people would argue, that if the religious leadership continues, it will do so by crushing resistance, emboldening itself further, and eventually tapping into the radical trend that exists in Islam right now. I mean, it really already is.

    The spread of 'empires' isn't always, or totally done by force, and no greater example are the Muslim empires of old. The level of piety that exists in Islam, has always allowed for this to happen. While other religions have waned in this respect, Islam has not. And there is no reason to believe that it cannot happen in modern times. After all, it is the hallmark of US foreign policy to prevent things like this, for good reason. And the rest of the world, not least of which, Iran's neighbors, are worried. First step in all of this, is becoming a nuclear power.
    Hmm, perhaps, but we have to remember that Syria is another represent of anti-West country, and if some Arabs want to follow some anti-West faction, it would be more possible to Syria rather than Iran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    Hmm, perhaps, but we have to remember that Syria is another represent of anti-West country, and if some Arabs want to follow some anti-West faction, it would be more possible to Syria rather than Iran.
    I don't think Syria's leftist/nationalist/secularist views would have much luck in the rest of the Middle East.

    Nah, I think that if there's to be major revolution in the Middle East it'll be Islamic rather than Pan-Arabic or Socialist.
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    I don't think Syria's leftist/nationalist/secularist views would have much luck in the rest of the Middle East.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiljan Arslan View Post
    Yeah so how is iran going to deal with all the sunnis in those lands? That and the fact Arabs and the Persians arn't known for getting along either.
    And furthermore, how are they going to deal with the fact that 2007 has already past?
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    I doubt it. Conquest of the Middle East by Iran isn't possible because they lack the military muscle, so they would quickly see their efforts stopped. I doubt that the Arab nations will enter a military alliance with one another either except possibly guaranteeing one another's independence. All in all, with the decline of the Ottoman Empire, the Muslim World ceased to be a significant power factor on the international stage.

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    I really doubt the US (or rest of the world powers for that matter) would stand idly buy as Iran tries to roll through Iraq.
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    Tom Clancy already wrote about it, and they got their asses handed to them

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    i think you meant to say that tom clancy fantasized about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    i think you meant to say that tom clancy fantasized about it
    yeah, he also almost predicted 9/11, he can really think ahead

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    Well I suppose not, considering the 2007 didn't happen either.

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    yeah, he also almost predicted 9/11, he can really think ahead
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    I hope this comes true.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jankren View Post
    I hope this comes true.
    me too, so those barbaric arabes will finally know their place.
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    No. But i admit the map looks totally awesome with the IRANIAN Juggernaut spreading its wings over the ME. I'm surprised they didn't so casually cover up all of Israel yet. Do they admit defeat!? lol

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    I do think it's entirely possible for the Iranian-style revolution to spread through the Middle East, I'm just not sure it would be that cohesive, due mostly to the Sunni-Shi'ite divide.

    If America left Iraq prematurely and the government collapsed I do believe it would be incredibly likely in that country, and I believe it would be likely that the Arabian countries would follow.
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