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    Default Rampant Corruption.. how to deal with it .. ??

    In my Selecuid campaign's I noticed that corruption was seriously high and costing at sometimes as much as the entire army was ! Now most if not all of the family members and governors have really good management traits and most cities have at least a scriptorium and councilor's chambers built so I'm really a wee bit confused as to why corruption is way out of control ? With my Macedon campaign its basically non existent, so how do you go about keeping the corruption levels down for a faction ?

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    Default Re: Rampant Corruption.. how to deal with it .. ??

    I think honest governance is key, but internal corruption may be down to low law enforcement maybe; Let the settlement rebel and massacre the lot of them!

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    The Seluciud scum are all corrupt! Mwahahaha!

    No, not really. I think you need governors with good management traits and ratings. Certainly cities become more corrupt without a governor. Also, having the trait 'corrupt' doesn't help much, .

    EDIT: Right, found a guide that had something about it. Seems it's to do with distance to capital. Pasted below:

    - Corruption – is the leading income cutter in the game. There are two kinds
    of corruption in the game.

    One has close relation to increasing distance to capital. The farther the
    settlement is from the capital, the higher your percentage of corruption
    relative to the settlement’s Gross Income. There is also a grace distance
    where there are no corruption penalties. You can observe this where your
    Capital’s neighbor doesn’t have any corruption penalties. This table clearly
    shows that effect (I have updated table provided by therother from
    totalwar.org, because his detailed percentage quotas did not always check out
    in my version of the game):

    Distance-To- Capital (in tiles) | Corruption (as Percentage of Gross Income):

    < = 15 | 0
    20 | 04%
    25 | 08%
    30 | 11.5%
    35 | 15%
    40 | 20%
    45 | 24,5%
    50 | 28%
    55 | 31%
    60 | 34%
    65 | 37,5%
    70 | 41,5%
    75 | 46%
    80 | 51%
    85 | 55%
    90 | 60%
    95 | 64%
    100 <= | 68,5%

    I’d like to be able to tell you that this Corruption value can be compared to
    Distance to Capitol value form Public Order section. They are related, but it
    is not possible to give an exact equation for this relation, mostly because
    the Corruption changes by single percents or even fractions of it. DTC in PO
    is increasing in increments of 5%. The only relation is the fact that both
    values come from actual distance to capitol in tiles.

    The problem with collecting data for this table is that one has to have a
    large empire to collect it from. The small amount of numbers to compare may be
    the cause why my results are not corresponding with therother’s.

    So what can you do about this thing that eats up your money? Well, law bonus
    does reduce corruption penalties. More specifically, the amount of corruption
    reduced is based on (0.03 x Gross Income) for every point of Law bonus (where
    Gross Income = sum of income from mining, farming, taxes and trade, before
    costs are deducted off course). What provides this Law bonus? Well:
    a) temples of law, governors, justice, leadership, one god provide from 1 to 5
    points (shrine to Pantheon);
    b) pantheons of victory, naval, love, hunting, fun, forge, fertility, farming
    provide 2 points each;
    c) despotic law buildings (Execution Square and upgrades) provide from 2 to 4
    points;
    d) various traits and ancillaries can provide such bonus for a governor.

    Example:

    Settlement A has Gross Income = 1200 denari and Corruption value = 180 denari
    (35 tiles away = 15% corruption). If you construct a level 1 Law Temple:

    0.03 * Gross Income = Corruption penalty (in denari) removed per level of Law
    Temple.

    0.03 * 1200 denari = 36 denari.

    Thus Initial Corruption value – Corruption penalty removed = Resultant
    Corruption value:
    180 denari – 36 denari = 144 denari.

    Building a Level 2 Law Temple decreases corruption by another 36 denari and so
    on.

    It is not difficult to understand that building all 5 levels of this temple
    will nullify the corruption is this particular town. That is because each
    point of law bonus removes 3% of corruption value shown in the table.

    Also I think Happiness level of city population (PO > 100%) also decreases
    corruption, by a small margin.

    The second kind of corruption is related to the traits of your governors.
    Traits that negatively affect Management (there is no negative Management,
    though – the effect is by negating any existing Management abilities) ability
    of the governor, or his ability to influence Trade, Tax, Mining or Farming
    income do lower the general income of the city. Effects of this kind of
    corruption are visible under appropriate income quotas, not under Corruption.
    I have mentioned it here, because many people confuse the two.
    Last edited by The Man With No Name; May 12, 2010 at 10:21 AM.

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    Default Re: Rampant Corruption.. how to deal with it .. ??

    If that doesn't awnser your question nothing will! What a post lol

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    Default Re: Rampant Corruption.. how to deal with it .. ??

    maths... didnt read

    na just kidding, nice answer, explains quite a lot, but i think that 15 tiles isnt really all that much lol... seems to me that the distance between mediolanum and rome is already more than 15 tiles (tile is one step of an army right?)

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    There's always corruption in our current time and old times even worse i bet.


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