Supplying your army

**The Acadian** · May 11, 2010, 07:25 PM

As per the mod notes, we have to "supply" our troops via bringing them into a friendly or just concurred city or bringing them onto a boat. Which brings me to this thought, is it possible to supply and boost moral of generals/troops when they're in a fort? And when you have your generals/troops out "in the field" for long periods of time what exactly happens to them? Thanks for any answers in advance.

**bɑne** · May 11, 2010, 08:16 PM

Resupplying in forts is possible, I think there are differences in terms of effectivness between the supply system versions. Remember that you also always have foraging.
Troops that are a long time in the field suffer morale and movement point reductions and I believe the chance for the general to fall ill is increased as well.

**The Acadian** · May 11, 2010, 08:49 PM

Sounds simple enough, gonna play around a little with things and see how it all works out.

ty for the reply

**Ebenezer Grymm** · May 13, 2010, 12:45 PM

As a new user to Stainless Steel using the 6.2 patch, does anyone have any instructions on how to disable the Army Supply part of it?

**JorisofHolland** · May 13, 2010, 12:54 PM

Go to export_descr_character_traits.txt and search for 'supplies'. Then remove the trait, and search for any triggers and delete them as well. NOT save-game compatible.

**Ebenezer Grymm** · May 13, 2010, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by JorisofHolland

Go to export_descr_character_traits.txt and search for 'supplies'. Then remove the trait, and search for any triggers and delete them as well. NOT save-game compatible.

I'm like totally new, what do you mean by "triggers", and are they all in that one file?

**Ebenezer Grymm** · May 13, 2010, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by JorisofHolland

Go to export_descr_character_traits.txt and search for 'supplies'. Then remove the trait, and search for any triggers and delete them as well. NOT save-game compatible.

I just made a backup of that file and opened it up, I have no idea what I'm supposed to do there. I can see there's a section with traits and a section with triggers but I have no clue which ones to delete.

**JorisofHolland** · May 14, 2010, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Ebenezer Grymm

I just made a backup of that file and opened it up, I have no idea what I'm supposed to do there. I can see there's a section with traits and a section with triggers but I have no clue which ones to delete.

Search (Ctrl + F) for the trait Supplies. Below it is a trait SuppliesAdded. Remove both. Then, press Ctrl + F again and remove any trigger that adds, removes, or even mentiones Supplies or SuppliesAdded.

Example: the red-marked parts should be removed:

Code:

;------------------------------------------
Trigger TurnsawayBattle2
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition IsGeneral
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and Trait Turnsaway < 1

Affects Turnsaway 12 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger SupplyBattle2
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition IsGeneral
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and Trait Supplies < 1

    Affects Supplies  1  Chance  100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger SetGensReadyStartSupply
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart

    Condition IsGeneral
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and Trait Supplies < 1

Affects Supplies 1 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger SetGensReadyStartTurnsaway
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart

    Condition IsGeneral
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and Trait Turnsaway < 1

Affects Turnsaway 12 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger SetGensReadyEndSupply
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and Trait Supplies < 1

Affects Supplies 1 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------

**Ebenezer Grymm** · May 15, 2010, 04:34 PM

There is a LOT of stuff in that file that mentions supply or supplies. Are you sure I have to delete ALL of it?

Here are the ones I see. Some of this doesn't even look like it has anything to do with the army supply stuff. And then there's other things that don't specifically mention supplies that looks like it is also part of the supply system that should also be deleted.

I don't feel like doing this and then starting a campaign only to CTD every turn. Hopefully someone knows how to remove this stuff. I installed SS Tuesday or Wednesday and I haven't even been able to play the goddam thing yet because no one really seems to know what's going on with this supply business. I just want it gone.

Code:

;------------------------------------------
Trait Supplies
    Characters family
    AntiTraits SuppliesAdded

    Level Army_Fully_Supplied
        Description Army_Fully_Supplied_desc
        EffectsDescription Army_Fully_Supplied_effects_desc
        Threshold  1 
 
    Level Army_Supplies_75_Percent
        Description Army_Supplies_75_Percent_desc
        EffectsDescription Army_Supplies_75_Percent_effects_desc
        Threshold  2 

    Level Army_Supplies_50_Percent
        Description Army_Supplies_50_Percent_desc
        EffectsDescription Army_Supplies_50_Percent_effects_desc
        Threshold  3 
 
        Effect Unrest  1 

    Level Army_Supplies_25_Percent
        Description Army_Supplies_25_Percent_desc
        EffectsDescription Army_Supplies_25_Percent_effects_desc
        Threshold  4 

        Effect TroopMorale  -3 
        Effect Unrest  2 

    Level Out_Of_Supplies
        Description Out_Of_Supplies_desc
        EffectsDescription Out_Of_Supplies_effects_desc
        Threshold  5 

        Effect Command -2 
        Effect TroopMorale  -6 
        Effect Unrest  3 
        Effect MovementPoints -5

;unrest here represent when u enter a settlement you take more supplies from population
;------------------------------------------
Trait SuppliesAdded
    Characters family
    AntiTraits Supplies

    Level Supplies_Added
        Description Supplies_Added_desc
        EffectsDescription Supplies_Added_effects_desc
        Threshold  1

Code:

;------------------------------------------
Trait SuppliedBySea
    Characters family

    Level On_Supply_Ship
        Description On_Supply_Ship_desc
        EffectsDescription On_Supply_Ship_effects_desc
        Threshold  1

Code:

;------------------------------------------
Trigger SupplyStart
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart

    Condition IsGeneral
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and Trait Supplies < 1

    Affects Supplies  1  Chance  100

;give supplies at start of turn to all local gens
;rest of triggers only reduce in enemy land and only add in home settlement, not land.

Code:

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Poor_Logistics
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and not EndedInSettlement
          and InEnemyLands
          and not Trait LogisticalSkill > 0
          and Trait Supplies = 5
          and Trait PoorLogistics < 1

    Affects PoorLogistics  1  Chance  100

;only adds this if currently does not have and allowed supplies to run out last turn
;------------------------------------------
Trigger CapturedSupplies
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition IsGeneral
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and WonBattle
          and PercentageEnemyKilled > 50
          and Trait Supplies > 1

    Affects SuppliesAdded  2  Chance  100
    Affects Supplies  1  Chance  100

;supplies won if 50% enemy killed after battle, plus 1/4 if room plus
;------------------------------------------
Trigger CapturedSupplies2
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition IsGeneral
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and WonBattle
          and PercentageEnemyKilled > 50
          and Trait Supplies > 1

    Affects SuppliesAdded  2  Chance  100
    Affects Supplies  1  Chance  100

;supplies won after a battle adds another 1/4 back to stock if room and 50% enemy killed. 
;------------------------------------------
Trigger EnemyCapturesSupplies
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition IsGeneral
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and not WonBattle
          and PercentageOfArmyKilled > 50
          and Trait Supplies <= 4

    Affects Supplies  1  Chance  100

;supplies 1/4 lost if 50% army lost after a battle, 25%
;------------------------------------------
Trigger EnemyCapturesSupplies2
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition IsGeneral
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and not WonBattle
          and PercentageOfArmyKilled > 50
          and Trait Supplies <= 4

    Affects Supplies  1  Chance  50

;supplies 1/4 lost if 50% army lost after a battle, 50%
;------------------------------------------
Trigger EnemyCapturesSupplies3
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition IsGeneral
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and not WonBattle
          and PercentageOfArmyKilled > 50
          and Trait Supplies <= 4

    Affects Supplies  1  Chance  50

;supplies 1/4 lost if 50% army lost after a battle, 75%
;------------------------------------------
Trigger EnemyCapturesSupplies4
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition IsGeneral
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and not WonBattle
          and PercentageOfArmyKilled > 50
          and Trait Supplies <= 4

    Affects Supplies  1  Chance  50

;supplies 1/4 lost if 50% army lost after a battle, 100%

Code:

Trigger CountResetAnyRegion4
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and Trait TimeInField = 4
          and not EndedInEnemyZOC

    Affects TIFReset 10  Chance  100
    Affects TimeInField  6  Chance  100

;reset TIF=4 because both enemy and home region army were set to 4 when they trigger
;their supply decrease.OLD, NEW Region Reset.ZOC triggers only on 1st contact
;------------------------------------------

Code:

Trigger SupplyGet
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
          and EndedInSettlement
          and PopulationOwnReligion > 50
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and Trait Supplies > 1

    Affects SuppliesAdded  2  Chance  100
    Affects Supplies  1  Chance  100

;In settlement, with own 50% religious land and with supplies reduced. Resupply 1/4
;------------------------------------------
Trigger SupplyGet2
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
          and EndedInSettlement
          and PopulationOwnReligion > 50
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and Trait Supplies > 1

    Affects SuppliesAdded  2  Chance  100
    Affects Supplies  1  Chance  100

;In settlement, 50% own religion, supplies reduced. Resupply 1/4 if needed
;------------------------------------------
Trigger SupplyShipReset
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and Trait SuppliedBySea > 0

    Affects SuppliedBySea  -1  Chance  100

;keeps this trait set at 0 unless it fulfills trigger each turn
;------------------------------------------
Trigger SupplyShip1
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
          and AtSea
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and Trait Supplies > 1

    Affects SuppliesAdded 2 Chance 100
    Affects Supplies 1 Chance 100
    Affects SuppliedBySea 1 Chance 100

;In a ship for 1 turn. Resupply 1/4
;------------------------------------------
Trigger SupplyShip2
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
          and AtSea
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and Trait Supplies > 1
          and Trait PoorLogistics < 1

    Affects SuppliesAdded  2  Chance  100
    Affects Supplies  1  Chance  100

;In ship 1 turn. Resupply 1/4 if needed. Replenish 1/2 in total
;------------------------------------------
Trigger TIFReset
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
          and EndedInSettlement
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and Trait TimeInField > 2

    Affects TIFReset 10  Chance  100
    Affects TimeInField  8  Chance  100

;In settlement. Chipaway 2xTIF if >2 then -2. Non religious settlement gets field time reset
;too but no resupply.

Code:

Trigger SupplyUsedEnemyZOC
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and not AtSea
          and not EndedInSettlement
          and InEnemyLands
          and Trait TimeInField = 4
          and Trait Supplies <= 4

    Affects Supplies  1  Chance  100

;In Enemy ZOC, 1/4 Supplies used in enemy land. Enemy land uses 1/4 per 2 turns
;but Timeinfield set to 4 to show 4th level
;------------------------------------------
Trigger SupplyUsedEnemy1
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and not AtSea
          and not EndedInSettlement
          and InEnemyLands
          and Trait TimeInField = 2
          and Trait Supplies = 5

    Affects TimeInField  2  Chance  100

;1/4 Supplies used in enemy land. Enemy land uses 1/4 per 2 turns.
;Set TIF to 4 if supply = out, therefore can be reduced no further.
;Timeinfield set to 4 to show 4th level.
;------------------------------------------
Trigger SupplyUsedEnemy2
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and not AtSea
          and not EndedInSettlement
          and InEnemyLands
          and Trait TimeInField = 2
          and Trait Supplies <= 4

    Affects Supplies  1  Chance  100
    Affects TimeInField  2  Chance  100

;1/4 Supplies used in enemy land. Enemy land uses 1/4 per 2 turns.
;Sets timein field to 4 if supplies not out and reduces supplies.
;Timeinfield set to 4 to show 4th level
;------------------------------------------
Trigger SupplyUsedFriendly
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and not AtSea
          and not EndedInSettlement
          and not InEnemyLands
          and Trait TimeInField = 4
          and Trait Supplies <= 4

    Affects Supplies  1  Chance  100

;1/4 Supplies used in friendly land. Uses 1/4 per 4 turns. Now TIF resets before count

Code:

Trigger harsh_lifestyle2
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
;with supplies not worth spending time in wild.

    Condition not EndedInSettlement
          and RemainingMPPercentage = 100
          and InEnemyLands

    Affects HaleAndHearty  1  Chance  5 
    Affects Austere  1  Chance  2 
    Affects Cuckold  1  Chance  2 
    Affects Ignorance  1  Chance  1 
    Affects Pragmatic  1  Chance  2 
    Affects Stoic  1  Chance  2 

;------------------------------------------
Trigger harsh_lifestyle3
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
;with supplies, not worth spending time in wild.

    Condition not EndedInSettlement
          and RemainingMPPercentage = 100
          and not InEnemyLands

    Affects HaleAndHearty  1  Chance  10 
    Affects Austere  1  Chance  2 
    Affects Pragmatic  1  Chance  2 
    Affects Stoic  1  Chance  2

**bɑne** · May 15, 2010, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by Ebenezer Grymm

There is a LOT of stuff in that file that mentions supply or supplies. Are you sure I have to delete ALL of it?

All text blocks between ----- lines that include the words Supplies and SuppliesAdded have to be removed.
No supply trait, no basement for the house, roof falls down and kills supply system.

Hopefully someone knows how to remove this stuff.

Looks to me like JorisofHolland does.

I don't feel like doing this and then starting a campaign only to CTD every turn.

No worries if you screw this up your campaign most likely won't go beyond turn 1.