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    By ELAINE GANLEY and JOSEF FEDERMAN, Associated Press Writer Elaine Ganley And Josef Federman, Associated Press Writer – 2 hrs 50 mins ago

    PARIS – Israel won a rare victory on the international diplomatic stage Monday, gaining acceptance in an exclusive club of prosperous economies after a 16-year effort to join the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development — and in the face of stiff Palestinian opposition.

    The Paris-based OECD said it had invited Israel, as well as Estonia and Slovenia, to become members after they met specific criteria as developed, open economies. Once formally invested as members, the three will swell the ranks of the OECD to 34 members, including the United States, a strong backer of Israel's bid.

    The three new members "will contribute to a more plural and open OECD that is playing an increasingly important role in the global economic architecture," OECD Secretary-General Angel Gurria said in a statement.

    Just a few months ago, Gurria had expressed concern about high levels of poverty and unemployment, especially among the minority Arab populations, during a visit to Israel.

    However, it did not appear to have hampered membership. On Monday, Gurria said Israel, Estonia and Slovenia had been "receptive to OECD recommendations."

    Membership comes after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu cleared the way for the resumption of peace talks with the Palestinians last week, following a 17-month break. While the OECD is essentially an economic club, membership could give Netanyahu's government a diplomatic boost.

    Gurria told a news conference in Paris that Israeli politics and Mideast tensions were "not the main focus of discussion," but acknowledged, "The entire process of membership is political."

    The OECD's legal director, Nicola Bonucci, said Monday that a first of its kind study will be carried out "to quantify the impact" of data included by Israel from the Golan Heights, east Jerusalem and West Bank settlements in its data. Bonucci said that issue "was discussed at length."

    The head of Israel's central bank, Stanley Fischer, said membership "is an important step towards Israel's integration into the global economy, and is an expression of Israel's commitment to meet the highest international standards."

    Israel views membership as an important stamp of recognition for the country's economic accomplishments and hopes it bolsters Israel's credit rating and paves the way for additional trade.

    Netanyahu said Monday's decision culminated contacts dating back to 1994, when Israel sent its first observers to the OECD. Israel formally started the OECD membership process three years ago.

    "Today, a new investment avenue has been opened for us," he said, telling reporters that he hopes to make Israel one of the world's top 15 economies over the next decade.

    Over the decades, Israel has evolved from a tiny, farming nation into a high-tech powerhouse, known for its numerous start-ups, developments in communications, software and military technology.

    Palestinian officials had urged the OECD to reject Israel's application. They said that Israel's occupation of the West Bank, and discriminatory treatment of its own Arab citizens, put the country at odds with the OECD's commitment to human rights.

    Mohammed Ishtayah, head of the semiofficial Palestinian development agency PECDAR, called Monday's decision "unfortunate," and said the OECD had prematurely rewarded Israel.

    "I think it is a misjudgment on behalf of the organization. I think this will encourage Israel not to go along with the peace process," he said.

    Pro-Palestinian activists planned protests in Paris on Monday.

    Netanyahu, meanwhile, has been pressed to halt Jewish settlement construction in the West Bank and east Jerusalem — areas claimed by the Palestinians. He has reluctantly slowed settlement activity in recent months, clearing the way last week for the resumption of peace talks. It was not clear whether the OECD decision was any sort of reward for the renewed peace efforts.

    Israel has also been under fire for its military conduct during a war in the Gaza Strip early last year, and has recently come under pressure to come clean about its nuclear capabilities.

    The U.S. ambassador to the OECD, Karen Kornbluh, called Monday "a truly historic day" for the body, whose activites include compiling statistics and monitoring members' actions in areas from fighting corruption to tax havens and fiscal policy.

    She said Israel boosted its candidacy by reforming laws to conform with OECD's anti-bribery rules and boost investor access to the financial services sector. She said Israel also agreed to a peer review by other OECD members of social policies toward minorities.

    "The U.S. believes it is crucial for the OECD to engage strategically with the wider world," she said. "We believe that Israel has much to offer the OECD."

    The OECD's members must vote unanimously to accept new members. An invitation from the OECD must be approved by a candidate country's parliament before it formally becomes a member.

    Russia also is being considered for OECD membership, but Gurria said Russia had been slow in submitting data to back up its bid and that a decision on Russia's membership will take at least another year.
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    Well, if Israel meets the requirements for OECD membership, I can't see why they shouldn't be allowed to join. Last time I checked, we're usually pretty good at ignoring a country's political situation if they're economically viable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Zoidberg View Post
    Well, if Israel meets the requirements for OECD membership, I can't see why they shouldn't be allowed to join. Last time I checked, we're usually pretty good at ignoring a country's political situation if they're economically viable.
    Do you know why Israel play in UEFA and take part in the Eurovision? Because our own continent doesn't let us join any organization of theirs because of our political situation.
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    Both male and female walruses have tusks and have been observed using these overgrown teeth to help pull themselves out of the water.

    The mustached and long-tusked walrus is most often found near the Arctic Circle, lying on the ice with hundreds of companions. These marine mammals are extremely sociable, prone to loudly bellowing and snorting at one another, but are aggressive during mating season. With wrinkled brown and pink hides, walruses are distinguished by their long white tusks, grizzly whiskers, flat flipper, and bodies full of blubber.
    Walruses use their iconic long tusks for a variety of reasons, each of which makes their lives in the Arctic a bit easier. They use them to haul their enormous bodies out of frigid waters, thus their "tooth-walking" label, and to break breathing holes into ice from below. Their tusks, which are found on both males and females, can extend to about three feet (one meter), and are, in fact, large canine teeth, which grow throughout their lives. Male walruses, or bulls, also employ their tusks aggressively to maintain territory and, during mating season, to protect their harems of females, or cows.
    The walrus' other characteristic features are equally useful. As their favorite meals, particularly shellfish, are found near the dark ocean floor, walruses use their extremely sensitive whiskers, called mustacial vibrissae, as detection devices. Their blubbery bodies allow them to live comfortably in the Arctic region—walruses are capable of slowing their heartbeats in order to withstand the polar temperatures of the surrounding waters.
    The two subspecies of walrus are divided geographically. Atlantic walruses inhabit coastal areas from northeastern Canada to Greenland, while Pacific walruses inhabit the northern seas off Russia and Alaska, migrating seasonally from their southern range in the Bering Sea—where they are found on the pack ice in winter—to the Chukchi Sea. Female Pacific walruses give birth to calves during the spring migration north.
    Only Native Americans are currently allowed to hunt walruses, as the species' survival was threatened by past overhunting. Their tusks, oil, skin, and meat were so sought after in the 18th and 19th centuries that the walrus was hunted to extinction in the Gulf of St. Lawrence and around Sable Island, off the coast of Nova Scotia.

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    Now now, don't get tetchy. My point was that since the OECD is essentially an economic agreement, so political situations should not affect a country's ability to join the OECD (I thought Israel was already a member).
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    Well I don't mind Israel joining OECD.

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    How on earth were they not already OECD?
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP226 View Post
    How on earth were they not already OECD?
    Well, we were OECD material since the late 80's, but our membership kept on getting delayed due to minor incidents such as the Lebanese wars and the Intifadas and Cast Lead and all that!
    Israel's more stable than it's ever been before, the enconomic crisis has virtually ended, and peace-talks with the Palestinians are taking place again. It's an ideal time to join...
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    Both male and female walruses have tusks and have been observed using these overgrown teeth to help pull themselves out of the water.

    The mustached and long-tusked walrus is most often found near the Arctic Circle, lying on the ice with hundreds of companions. These marine mammals are extremely sociable, prone to loudly bellowing and snorting at one another, but are aggressive during mating season. With wrinkled brown and pink hides, walruses are distinguished by their long white tusks, grizzly whiskers, flat flipper, and bodies full of blubber.
    Walruses use their iconic long tusks for a variety of reasons, each of which makes their lives in the Arctic a bit easier. They use them to haul their enormous bodies out of frigid waters, thus their "tooth-walking" label, and to break breathing holes into ice from below. Their tusks, which are found on both males and females, can extend to about three feet (one meter), and are, in fact, large canine teeth, which grow throughout their lives. Male walruses, or bulls, also employ their tusks aggressively to maintain territory and, during mating season, to protect their harems of females, or cows.
    The walrus' other characteristic features are equally useful. As their favorite meals, particularly shellfish, are found near the dark ocean floor, walruses use their extremely sensitive whiskers, called mustacial vibrissae, as detection devices. Their blubbery bodies allow them to live comfortably in the Arctic region—walruses are capable of slowing their heartbeats in order to withstand the polar temperatures of the surrounding waters.
    The two subspecies of walrus are divided geographically. Atlantic walruses inhabit coastal areas from northeastern Canada to Greenland, while Pacific walruses inhabit the northern seas off Russia and Alaska, migrating seasonally from their southern range in the Bering Sea—where they are found on the pack ice in winter—to the Chukchi Sea. Female Pacific walruses give birth to calves during the spring migration north.
    Only Native Americans are currently allowed to hunt walruses, as the species' survival was threatened by past overhunting. Their tusks, oil, skin, and meat were so sought after in the 18th and 19th centuries that the walrus was hunted to extinction in the Gulf of St. Lawrence and around Sable Island, off the coast of Nova Scotia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP226 View Post
    How on earth were they not already OECD?
    I can't think of any reasons unless the OECD considered the West Bank and Gaza a part of Israel, thus making them a 'developing nation' or something.

    I'd thought they were already in as well though. Learn something new every day.
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    So it was all political.
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    How does Israel have a free and open market when half it's population, and two fifths of it's territory is severely restricted economically? Ah, that's right, Israel gets anything it wants by somehow pretending that half of it's population is not it's population, or does not exist.

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    Meh.
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    Israel ignores half it's population whatnow?

    I'm sure in theory the matter isn't political, but undoubtedly people will still be biased. I guess we'll see, good luck to Israel.
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    Israel ignores half it's population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Яome kb8 View Post
    Israel ignores half it's population.
    If theyre Israels population then it could put them in jail and take over their land legitimatly.
    Since its "not" considered Israels land theres no discusssion here. Im sure Israel would trade OECD status for being considered the legitimate owner of the west bank and gaza any day (though it would still tell the palestinians to go off somewhre else if that was the case of course)

    Besides, Israel has long been one of the pareagons of free-trade and and good buissness policies ever since the 1990's , its a surprise they werent allowed in before. and the fact is the palestinians are just being sour grapes, they dont want Israel to acheieve anythign even if it will help the palestinians living inside Israel and even if the OECD made multiple suggestions that Israel implemented that helped them they still dont give a damn, because if Israel builds something its the palestinians job to tear it down and then claim they dont deserve it because they dont treat the palestinians in whatever way they want. Theres too many palestinians that jsut want to be a permenant filibuster and thats one of the many reasons the conflcit exists today.
    Besides, If Israel met their standards and took up their suggestions and the OECD still basically said "damn you, nope were not giving you anything because we think you deserve to be poorer because we just love the palestinians" that would hardly be ethical.
    On top of that, The west bank is controlled by the palestinian authority, and the gaza strip would be too if it wasnt controlled by hamas. So what economic policies is Israel supposed to set up there?

    Edit: btw, Im just pointing out - If Israel leaving the gaza strip and removing all its citizens from there and then claiming "we dont own this place anymore" isnt enough for you, i dont know what is.
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    Are they israel's population now? I can't tell becausse it is always changing with the political winds.
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    Sorry, I thought ''Palestine didn't exist''. So, if they aren't Palestine's population, and not Israel's population... they must be a figment of our imagination. Thank god we sorted out that problem. Carry on. Israel into the Human Rights Council next, to join Saudi Arabia and North Korea and Iran on it's completely unintentionally ironic line up.

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    I like this, it will cause some massive butthurt.
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    Has Israel annexed Gaza already? I must've missed that memo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roy34543 View Post
    If theyre Israels population then it could put them in jail and take over their land legitimatly.
    The way you said that it's as if Israel doesn't do that already.

    Since its "not" considered Israels land
    GOT to stop you right there. The rest of the world doesn't consider it Israel's land, but Israel certainly does. Which is why I made the point that I did. If Israel believes that land to be it's own, why then does it conveniently exclude the Arabs living there from the same ECONOMIC rights as the Arabs living on the other side of the invisible line? The answer is obvious of course, demographics and Zionism.

    Besides, Israel has long been one of the pareagons of free-trade and and good buissness policies ever since the 1990's , its a surprise they werent allowed in before. and the fact is the palestinians are just being sour grapes, they dont want Israel to acheieve anythign even if it will help the palestinians living inside Israel and even if the OECD made multiple suggestions that Israel implemented that helped them they still dont give a damn, because if Israel builds something its the palestinians job to tear it down and then claim they dont deserve it because they dont treat the palestinians in whatever way they want. Theres too many palestinians that jsut want to be a permenant filibuster and thats one of the many reasons the conflcit exists today.
    The reason why the Palestinians are complaining is not ''sour grapes'' or ''butt hurt'' but a legitimate frustration that Israel actively discriminates against them in their own territory with favourable economic regulations to Jews in Palestinian territory, but not Arabs. Such a blatant irregularity in ''free trade'' is legitimate opposition to being let into a free trade bloc... especially when the reasons for that economic irregularity and discrimination is entirely political and not economic.

    Besides, If Israel met their standards and took up their suggestions and the OECD still basically said "damn you, nope were not giving you anything because we think you deserve to be poorer because we just love the palestinians" that would hardly be ethical.
    It's not about poverty. It's about the definition of free market, and a free market is not one which works according to ethnicity and excludes half the population within the so called free market territory.

    On top of that, The west bank is controlled by the palestinian authority, and the gaza strip would be too if it wasnt controlled by hamas. So what economic policies is Israel supposed to set up there?
    Well, actually, the West Bank is not controlled by the PA, 2/3rds of it is under Israeli military or civil authority still.

    Quote Originally Posted by Surgeon View Post
    Has Israel annexed Gaza already? I must've missed that memo.
    No that memo was never sent. But you did definitely miss the memo which pointed out that ''Gaza does not equal the West Bank and East Jerusalem, the territory of the Palestinian State'' which have been annexed, indirectly.

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