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    I think there's a huge misconception about why people choose to be soldiers. A lot of people seem to think they're some kind of war junkies ("most soldiers have psycopathic tendecies", etc).

    How a psycopath could survive in any army is beyond me: they're so close knit and anyone displaying a complete lack of empathy combined with "weird" behaviour probably wouldn't make it through basic training.

    Anyway could the soldiers on this forum please tell us why they chose the military? I know there's one reason that's very hard to put into words, and I understand it. Not that everyone will.

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    Its a profession, you earn money.

    Not a soldier myself but that would make sense.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HansDuet View Post
    Its a profession, you earn money.

    Not a soldier myself but that would make sense.
    Economic necesity was the reason I enlisted. After arriving in Korea and seeing all that had gone on, other considerations sprang forth as a reason for staying in the military.

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    I'm joining the army in order to defend my country from invasion or/and terrorism, and to see to it that my grandchildren shall live in peace in their own country...
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    Money, honor, glory, defending your nation,etc.....

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    A sense of purpose, being involved in something bigger than yourself, and having something to tell your grandkids... at least, those are my reasons for considering joining.

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    I joined because I wanted to be a soldier, plain and simple. I could have stayed on at school or chose a different career but I wanted a bit of adventure rather than a boring civilian job.

    (I got about £50 per week so it was'nt for the money)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshireman View Post
    I joined because I wanted to be a soldier
    yes but why did you want to be a soldier? (your 6,000th post)

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    Quote Originally Posted by irelandeb View Post
    yes but why did you want to be a soldier? (your 6,000th post)
    Hard to answer really I just did, most people have some idea what appeals to them when they are younger. I grew up in the 70's when half the UK's films were still about the war and so were the boys comics. My grandfather served during the war, my father was a soldier during the 50's (national service) so it was'nt considered unusual or controversial to join the forces. Excitement, adventure, pride, assault courses, fitness, boats, helicopters, weapons, big boots, smart uniforms, bangs, explosions, what's not to like there for a young man ?

    It was a natural decision for me, I did'nt want to do anything else when I was younger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshireman View Post
    I could have stayed on at school or chose a different career but I wanted a bit of adventure rather than a boring civilian job.
    1 million times this. society drills into your head that no adventure comes without being a soldier or risking your life. i want to be one.

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    Something like this, I assume.


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    Well I am no professional soldier but I acted like a good patriotic Finn and did my time in military service. Felt meaningless tbh, my "purpose" is to crawl in mud and point enemy units with laser designator and report the distance. Then some other guy sends message to artillery and boom. I can do a lot better and meaningful things with my life.

    Some fun memories sure but only reason I would really go professional would be money. (And that would be peacemaker duties)

    But thats me. People have different priorities. And I bet its also different in those countries who actually fight wars these days.


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    every bloke considers a military career at some point in their lives; for me it was when i was just bout to finish high school and all the army, navy ppl were coming round trying to recruit us for the new war on terror.
    wanting to do the right thing i guess. even considered doing a medical degree as part of the army...

    reasons why i didnt: i'm not the military type, not the rules and regulations following orders type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    just bout to finish high school
    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshireman View Post
    Excitement, adventure, pride, assault courses, fitness, boats, helicopters, weapons, big boots, smart uniforms, bangs, explosions, what's not to like there for a young man ?
    this is my situation atm lol.

    I'm not that into fitness though, even though I'm going trecking in the mountains tommorow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irelandeb View Post
    this is my situation atm lol.

    I'm not that into fitness though, even though I'm going trecking in the mountains tommorow.
    You need to start getting into the fitness, especially running, if your thinking of joining up. It'll make life a lot easier for you when you start basic training or if you have to attend a selection course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    easons why i didnt: i'm not the military type, not the rules and regulations following orders type.
    Pretty much this. I know I have what it takes and what I don't have I know I can get. It's just that I don't want to because that's not a lifestyle I desire. However, other sides of one's personality can show quite well in the military which is very interesting. Take my commanders for example. They all had their moments, but only one guy was on my level - he was the most relaxed, least rigid and so on... basically he was still a good commander and soldier but he didn't lose his humanity in the process. We all respected and liked him a lot, not because he was an aggressive jerk that made it clear we had to obey him because of his rank like the others but because he was a damn nice fellow who didn't take things too seriously. If you're taking a shot at becoming an officer then I would recommend adopting behavior unless you don't value the morale of your men.

    I was in a 3-week navy thing for people 15-18 or something like that last year (I was 16 last year) and I'd say that it's not something I want to repeat. It was a very valuable experience but the reasons I don't want to continue with the military are:

    - You don't control your own life. Your commander does. I'm far too proud and independant to simply subordinate myself like that and become just another soldier.
    - I want to have more possibilities with my life both in the present and future than I have as a soldier.
    - Although I could handle it and put up with it within reasonable limit because it was something I did voluntarily, the rigid discipline and regulations along with the overdone, unnecessary things just made me feel a nearly constant sense of disharmony, unease and being out of place. It felt a bit surreal and my character needs a much more laidback, harmonious environment.
    - The same reason why I finally quit football half a dozen years ago, because training football was nearly all we did while I was in it for the real thing which was playing matches against other teams. In the same vein, training to live like a soldier was all we did. I dislike that a lot.

    And like Yorkshireman said, if you're thinking of joining the military then I'd really advice you to be in good shape before you do. Being unfit is not only bad in itself, it's bad because of how it'll most probably make you feel - inadequate etc. which will only compound the problem.
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    Also there are a number of my friends, lower income families, backwater towns, who just wanted to get out and see the world. Most of them after serving tours in the middle-east can't wait to get back to those quiet, nothing ever happens backwater towns.

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    Only like 3 soldiers posted and a lot of people making assumptions.

    The reason people join is numerous. Some for the benefits, others for the college money, some because its a steady job, some want to get out of their home town, others believe its their duty, there are patriots, there are gun nuts, there are people who want to make a difference, some were born soldiers, and there are others who don't know what to do. Everyone's reason is different and valid.
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    In Sweden it used to be a conscription system where everyone served. Then it became a conscription system where it was really easy to dodge service. I decided to serve becuase it seemed like an interesting challenge and my physical and mental exams went very well. Sadly the defence cutbacks ment that the place I was supposed to serve at was shut down.

    After a year at university I was really tired of studying and decided to fight for a place in the army. They decided that I would be allowed to serve as a specialist in defence versus Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear warfare due to the army having trouble finding people willing to serve in that branch. My engineering studies are focused on biotechnology so it also fit very well with my civilian studies so I was happy to accept the deal. Basicly I got a one year "study break", a very unusual experience and I strongly support the conscription system so it felt morally right to serve in it.

    After the year in the army I volunteered for a short mission to Afghanistan aimed to make sure that abandoned industries in Afghanistan doesn't risk harming the population or the Swedish ISAF force. But the army decided that it wasn't cost effective to send it so I didn't go to Afghanistan. My reason for volunteering was the it felt like a worthwhile job to do and the pay was adequate compared to other sources of income.

    Quote Originally Posted by Future Redleg Officer View Post
    Only like 3 soldiers posted and a lot of people making assumptions.

    The reason people join is numerous. Some for the benefits, others for the college money, some because its a steady job, some want to get out of their home town, others believe its their duty, there are patriots, there are gun nuts, there are people who want to make a difference, some were born soldiers, and there are others who don't know what to do. Everyone's reason is different and valid.
    I think you should lead by example and explain why you chose to become an officer . The OP is asking for peoples personal reasons to join, not a list of all possible reaons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future Redleg Officer View Post
    Only like 3 soldiers posted and a lot of people making assumptions.

    The reason people join is numerous. Some for the benefits, others for the college money, some because its a steady job, some want to get out of their home town, others believe its their duty, there are patriots, there are gun nuts, there are people who want to make a difference, some were born soldiers, and there are others who don't know what to do. Everyone's reason is different and valid.
    Served as a conscript. Do I count?

    Reasons: I was conscripted like every able bodied Greek for 9 months. My duty to the country. I loved my time in the airforce.

    Still, the majority of our professional soldiers in the airforce are there for the money... and because we have USA making sure they won't see combat.
    If there was trouble brewing, they would desert in a heartbeat most of them.

    The officers though, they were good. Most of them to a degree chose the career to serve the country. Some were a####les, some were too soft, some were smart, some were plain stupid, still most of them used the work "serve" in the airforce not "work" in the airforce like our professional soldiers use to say.
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