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    So, I still really love this mod, but the crashes are very annoying... I mean usually they are after the battle, but now I've had several crashes DURING a battle, which is very frustrating

    Also, I've had one of my settlements BRIBED... I mean, I don't mind that the AI gets more money to balance their (lack of) skills, but i've had a lot of my units bribed, and the settlement, that's just...just...
    any advice what I should do?

    oh, btw, I'm playing as Greece, and it appears that everyone is teaming up against me: Rome, Carthage, Seleukids, Ptolemaics, Getai, Hayasdan,... Not just fighting against me, but they're all allied amongst each other, so I've been at war for about 40 years, without any pause...

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    You got bribed because your Governor is weak or has a trait which could increase this risk. Greeks are hard start, and no on wants to be your friend. I always take that island city first and maybe to help with crash: can you list what video card etc you are using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SgtLong View Post
    You got bribed because your Governor is weak or has a trait which could increase this risk. Greeks are hard start, and no on wants to be your friend. I always take that island city first and maybe to help with crash: can you list what video card etc you are using?
    yeah, it's been a hard start, but I figured out Greek generals fighting works like a charm especially because they refresh their bodyguard all the time...
    So Makedonia is gone, and Epeiros won't be bothering me any longer , but the Ptolemaians just keep spamming units faster than I can recruit, hence my frustration: you have to do every battle otherwise even your most elite units get chopped to pieces, but at the same time the crashes keep occuring. But I'll try out what's been said here, and I hope you guys love the mod as much as I do!

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    To prevent after battle CTD's wait at least 30 seconds after the battle-results are showed up.
    Crashes during battle can be linked to cutscenes or to few RAM. To disable the first open \EB\preferences\preferences.txt and change EVENT_CUTSCENES:TRUE to FALSE.
    All fixes for 1.2 are properly installed?

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    Also, I've had one of my settlements BRIBED
    placing a diplomat inside your settlement will make it more difficult to bribe.

    As for the CTD's, I would add to what Xsamtan said, that some mini mods, especially if installed incorectly or are from a corrupt download, may cause the game to become unstable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinner View Post
    placing a diplomat inside your settlement will make it more difficult to bribe.

    As for the CTD's, I would add to what Xsamtan said, that some mini mods, especially if installed incorectly or are from a corrupt download, may cause the game to become unstable.
    OK, so thanks for all the feedback guys.

    I've no minimods installed, so that couldn't be it.
    I'll post my specs:

    Windows XP
    AMD Phenom II X4 940 3.01 Ghz, 3,25 GB of RAM
    ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
    tbh, that's fairly decent right?

    waiting 10 seconds before quitting the battle helps about 95% of all cases I guess, but I don't know how to prevent crashes DURING the game. I'd autoresolve, but... you know what happens then

    *EDIT: oh BTW, the diplomat thing is a good idea. and yeah, no one wants to be friends with me
    but they'll convert to hellenism... or ELSE! ^^
    Last edited by Biggieboy; May 10, 2010 at 06:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinner View Post
    placing a diplomat inside your settlement will make it more difficult to bribe.
    Spies are even better. Plus they will keep out enemy spies and assassins (somtimes an AI faction sends hundreds of them at you). Although with enough money, you can even bribe a spy along with the rest. But I haven't seen the AI managing to do this so far. Only myself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by athanaric View Post
    Spies are even better. Plus they will keep out enemy spies and assassins (somtimes an AI faction sends hundreds of them at you). Although with enough money, you can even bribe a spy along with the rest. But I haven't seen the AI managing to do this so far. Only myself...
    lol, you must be a wealthy man. nearly all my money goes to army upkeep and recruitment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggieboy View Post
    lol, you must be a wealthy man. nearly all my money goes to army upkeep and recruitment
    That's only the start. As soon as you've united Greece and built up a decent economy (read: mines, ports, paved roads, also healers and of course markets) with taxes set to maximum, you'll swim in money. I'd advise you to spend it on even more buildings and queue them up, otherwise your governors will become horribly corrupt.
    At one point this became a serious problem in my Makedonia campaign (even before 240 BC), so I took a million mnai and bribed some settlements.
    EB's building options are far more expansive than Vanilla RTW's, which means you can make insane amounts of money once you've teched up. Rome, Carthage and Pahlava are best for this.
    Right now I (Rome) am holding Italy, Iberia, and the Mediterranean islands, making 50k per turn. Do you know just how difficult it is to spend all that money? Man, I wish I had these issues in real life...

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    Quote Originally Posted by athanaric View Post
    That's only the start. As soon as you've united Greece and built up a decent economy (read: mines, ports, paved roads, also healers and of course markets) with taxes set to maximum, you'll swim in money. I'd advise you to spend it on even more buildings and queue them up, otherwise your governors will become horribly corrupt.
    At one point this became a serious problem in my Makedonia campaign (even before 240 BC), so I took a million mnai and bribed some settlements.
    EB's building options are far more expansive than Vanilla RTW's, which means you can make insane amounts of money once you've teched up. Rome, Carthage and Pahlava are best for this.
    Right now I (Rome) am holding Italy, Iberia, and the Mediterranean islands, making 50k per turn. Do you know just how difficult it is to spend all that money? Man, I wish I had these issues in real life...
    Lol, yeah, but you know what they say: mo' money, mo' problems!

    I've also noticed that you should read their background or heritage: spartiates seem to govern best in Spartan Agoge Klerouchy, while athenaios (or rhodios? not sure) does NOT work well in SAK... I've moved a spartan who had bad management to a SAK, and within several turns his management was nearly maxed out! so that's a deciding factor. Also, I send all young men to agoge training... so far none have failed, as I would expect of fine young Greeks One even got accepted into the Kryptea, AND excelled in spartan agoge... a bright future awaits him!

    I also make decent money, but I have fleets to maintain to ship units to Asia Minor, the Northern Barbarians need to be quelled, and the warmachine of Rome is not to be underestimated...

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    Make sure to install the fixes for EB, some are missing sprites that could cause crashes.

    Oh you are not exactly playing the Greeks as KH, more like leading an alliance of city states trying to safeguard their independence and political freedom from the various Kings and empires. And when they survive spread their ideas to everyone else (whether they like it or not )

    Ptolemies became the dominant power? That is not that bad, their elites recruitment is limited so if you hit them at certain places (Alexandria, Antioch if they took it, Judea) they won't be able to spam high quality units. Though the worst is when generals recruit mercenaries like mad)
    If Arche Seleukeia prevailed though, you would have to face an even more annoying elite unit spam)


    lol, you must be a wealthy man. nearly all my money goes to army upkeep and recruitment
    Once a campaign goes long enough and you build mines, ports and trade in the right locations...
    You start having more cash than you can use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faramir D'Andunie View Post
    Make sure to install the fixes for EB, some are missing sprites that could cause crashes.

    Oh you are not exactly playing the Greeks as KH, more like leading an alliance of city states trying to safeguard their independence and political freedom from the various Kings and empires. And when they survive spread their ideas to everyone else (whether they like it or not )

    Ptolemies became the dominant power? That is not that bad, their elites recruitment is limited so if you hit them at certain places (Alexandria, Antioch if they took it, Judea) they won't be able to spam high quality units. Though the worst is when generals recruit mercenaries like mad)
    If Arche Seleukeia prevailed though, you would have to face an even more annoying elite unit spam)




    Once a campaign goes long enough and you build mines, ports and trade in the right locations...
    You start having more cash than you can use.

    Yeah, I know they represent city states, although I'm not that much a history buff as other people around here... so what I say sometimes may be "historically incorrect".

    It's not so much that the ptolemies became the most dominant power (that would be me obviously ), but they and arche seleukeia are teaming up on the eastern front, along with pontos, to the north I have the barbarians of the steppes, and to the west I have Rome and its Legionaries. So I'm in quite a pickle

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    Personally when someone takes one of the western greek factions (KH, Epeiros or Makedonia) and unifies the immidiate region, I propose to either move west or east. Not try both at the same time, or it may require a bit too much cash spending in armies to keep both. Though eventually you would become large enough to fight in every front.

    That's only the start. As soon as you've united Greece and built up a decent economy (read: mines, ports, paved roads, also healers and of course markets) with taxes set to maximum, you'll swim in money. I'd advise you to spend it on even more buildings and queue them up, otherwise your governors will become horribly corrupt.
    At one point this became a serious problem in my Makedonia campaign (even before 240 BC), so I took a million mnai and bribed some settlements.
    EB's building options are far more expansive than Vanilla RTW's, which means you can make insane amounts of money once you've teched up. Rome, Carthage and Pahlava are best for this.
    Right now I (Rome) am holding Italy, Iberia, and the Mediterranean islands, making 50k per turn. Do you know just how difficult it is to spend all that money? Man, I wish I had these issues in real life...
    I know such feelings. Like having a great administrator general, see him get great miner trait and the right followers so that when placed in the right city (Ipsos in my latest case) he generates 3000 extra by himself... and then he decides to start minting coins for himself and get so much unrest and negative traits to have to get rid off.


    But there are always some way to waste your vast treasuries. Fleets, elephants, siege weapons, or destroying buildings and building them all over, never tried that one though.
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