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    Default So...is it Caius...or Gaius?

    anybody know? Oh, and how do you pronounce the name Gnaeus (Cnaeus)?
    "So parents...hold on to your hats...the federal government is gonna give you 400 dollars for every child you have...so if you've got 1,000 kids...you're on freaking easy street. That's where you go, what is the government thinking? I mean wha, what do Congressmans' children eat -- MITES?!? All 400 dollars does is remind me how screwed I am; You'd be better off if you're Congressman just came to your door, and pissed on your foot."

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    Default Re: So...is it Caius...or Gaius?

    I imagine the G or C would be silent.

    I prefer Gaius.

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    Default Re: So...is it Caius...or Gaius?

    as a side note, I love your sig!!!

    moving on lol, were the letters interchangable? I would doubt if but of course I dont' know. I've seen Caesar written both Caius and Gaius (as I'm sure most of you have). Are there any other words besides the two names I've mentioned that share this oddity?

    Bottom line: does anyone have any idea if Caesar's name was CAIUS or GAIUS? Were they pronounced the same in the name and are therefore interchangable? Is one right and the other incorrect? I have to admit this is a subtle question that has always been in the back of my mind. Does anyone have any thoughts upon the matter?
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    "So parents...hold on to your hats...the federal government is gonna give you 400 dollars for every child you have...so if you've got 1,000 kids...you're on freaking easy street. That's where you go, what is the government thinking? I mean wha, what do Congressmans' children eat -- MITES?!? All 400 dollars does is remind me how screwed I am; You'd be better off if you're Congressman just came to your door, and pissed on your foot."

    BSADDB, RIP Brooster (09/2007)

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    Default Re: So...is it Caius...or Gaius?

    From Wikipedia:

    Gaius, sometimes spelled Caius, was a common Roman praenomen. It is abbreviated C.; the abbreviation goes back to before the Roman alphabet distinguished between C and G, probably from Etruscan Cae or Cai, meaning unknown. In classical times, the name was pronounced in three syllables, Gāius [ˈɡaː.i.us].


    It is also possible that the use of C reflects the Greek letter Gamma.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius

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    Default Re: So...is it Caius...or Gaius?

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkside View Post
    anybody know? Oh, and how do you pronounce the name Gnaeus (Cnaeus)?
    C and G are the same letter originally, as others have stated (same as V and U are the same letter in Latin).

    On your 2nd question:

    Gnaeus is pronounced like Gaius just with an n after the G = Gnaius

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    Default Re: So...is it Caius...or Gaius?

    It's original form is Caius, it's pronounced ['ga:.i.us], meaning it's a three-syllable word in its classical Latin form. The vocative is "Gai", the "i" is short like the "y" in "guy".
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    Default Re: So...is it Caius...or Gaius?

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    Default Re: So...is it Caius...or Gaius?

    I am familiar with the similarity between the letters V and U as we understand them. Thanks all for your informative replies!

    Okay, one more question regarding latin grammar: let's say you have a word that has two V's in a row: does this change the pronunciation?

    And regarding the Gnaeus question: so....that particular name is pronounced with the G audible? So...is it Ga-nai-us?
    Last edited by Darkside; May 09, 2010 at 11:24 AM.
    "So parents...hold on to your hats...the federal government is gonna give you 400 dollars for every child you have...so if you've got 1,000 kids...you're on freaking easy street. That's where you go, what is the government thinking? I mean wha, what do Congressmans' children eat -- MITES?!? All 400 dollars does is remind me how screwed I am; You'd be better off if you're Congressman just came to your door, and pissed on your foot."

    BSADDB, RIP Brooster (09/2007)

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    Default Re: So...is it Caius...or Gaius?

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkside View Post
    Okay, one more question regarding latin grammar: let's say you have a word that has two V's in a row: does this change the pronunciation?
    Group VV aka UU followed by consonant is pronounced wo, or with just as a singular u in the group QVV or GVV, where the first V is not syllable or uo where the two vowels are heard as two real vowels.. example: EQVVS pronounced ekwos or ekus. Even the writing according to ancient sources as Quintilian or Velius Longus, stated that group VV was also written as VO in all the Augustean era, the group QVV and consequently GVV in the first century AD had double writing as QVO pronounced as kwo and QVV pronounced ku.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkside View Post

    And regarding the Gnaeus question: so....that particular name is pronounced with the G audible? So...is it Ga-nai-us?

    G has the same sound as in "gay"

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