After a discussion about the prospects of the map, we've agreed to expand the map slightly to the West and slightly to the South. In order to do so we re-oriented Japan in respect to the mainland slightly and trimmed a bit of the lower Siberian region, as well as lessening the distance across the Yellow Sea, which is depicted in the illustrative map below. The expansion to the South is not depicted, and will not require any cutbacks in the north as we had some free height.
Click to Expand Map - Old Map (Left) | Planned Map (Right)
Before anything else is covered, it should be noted that the 'planned map' shown on the right is not currently implemented within the active build, and is scheduled for development after other things wrap up, which is why this thread is here. It also isn't necessarily exact and may be altered some dimensionally to find the right sweet spot.
The main reasoning behind the expansion/shift is to allow for more space to incorporate the Tibetan and Khitan homelands, whereas on the old map we'd have needed to simulate their western possessions through scripted income. It will also allow us to place the Ghurid (or Delhi) Sultanate on the map rather than have them emerge, which is better for gameplay reasons and will satisfy the ability to play as them. The expansion to the South will go down to the opening of the Strait of Malacca so that the Bay of Bengal can be connected to the South China Sea realistically. This will necessitate the inclusion of parts of Borneo and Sumatra, which will be treated like the Philippines are now.
As of this time we have 15 factions, which is plenty work as it is. At the most 17 selectable main factions is the threshold which should not be surpassed due to interface reasons(this was the number used in M2 Vanilla). Cases could be made for Srivijaya and Sena based on filling the map expanse with non-rebels and the requisite uniqueness requirement, but such a move would require extensive deliberation and argumentation to establish. We are perfectly fine with expanding the map without incorporating any new full factions, and that is the plan for now, but feel free to discuss this matter. We will not entertain ideas about factions located within already populated map regions, since the reason for such an addition would be map balance first and foremost.
What this change also means is that a number of current regions will be re-distributed from some of the more region heavy areas, and some current regions may be altered. Since we will undergo substantial changes, now is the optimum time for map changes to other areas to be proposed and reasoned out. After this is all said and done we will be much less likely to entertain changes to the map because of the fact that internal names and coordinates are very difficult to work with if they are constantly shifting, so we want to get all of the changes done in one go. I know tokimitsu suggested some Goryeo changes, and RW suggested some Song/Jin changes a while back, so if anyone wants to dig those up feel free. The guys over at Ministry of Rites may also have suggested changes to Dai Viet/Champa areas, or if not they may be interested in the ability to input into that.
Use this thread to discuss the topics aforementioned.
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