New World Protecterates

**English Total War Gamer** · May 06, 2010, 03:27 PM

I hate how you have to complete a mission to take YOUR OWN Colonies. As I am Britain I have to go to war with France, which means a 2 front war in the Americas and Europe. France also have dangerous allies, including Spain, who I wouldnt want to go to war with just yet. Also I have to effectively wipe out the Cherokees by taking Georgia and their own home region. Also the Kaintuck Region Capital would have to be invaded as it would pose a threat to my newly captured Cherokee Territory.

So really do I just neglect the 13 colonies and avoid a 2 front war with powerful nations until I have built up by Army + Navy, this could be costly though as the French could get a major foothold in North America or the United States could take many regions if they come into exsistance. Instead of focusing on North America, is it better to start with getting a foothold in India. I would rather fight the Mughals then the French to be honest as I am not strong enough at the start of the game. Should I just take on the Cherokees with a Army built up from the Jamaica, and just forget the French for the time being, till I am stronger.

Or do I wage war with France and hope Spain dont get involved? A 2 front war with France would be hard enough. If i didnt go to war with the French though would I try to go to war with the Huron and try to take their lands with a built up army from the Rupert's Land?

**dutch81** · May 06, 2010, 06:09 PM

I think your primary objective should be completing the mission to retrieve the 13 colonies ... so your main concentration of forces goes there. But, I think it is also wise to join the Maratha in their conquest of India before they run away with it ... with Mughal forces concentrating in the south facing off with the Maratha you should be able to slip in an army of 6-10 units to take Bengal or another rich region on the east coast of India ... this force should be enough to hold the province and from there you can build more troops locally to further your conquests in India.

As far as Europe is concerned I see little reason to involve yourself their greatly ... have your navy blockade the french coast and stay clear of the Med. and you should be alright.

**Rainbow Dash** · May 06, 2010, 06:10 PM

In my experience, it's pretty easy to take out France in the Americas (they only trained archers and mounted native gunners in my experience, and not very many of em), so just train a decent army of about 7 units in Moose Factory, and you'll easily be able to take all 4 French provinces in New France (or does Newfoundland not start out French?).

Also, in Europe, France has never invaded Britain, or Sweden (which I won in a war), but they have attacked my ports, which is a bit annoying, but only a minor problem.

Alternatively, you could do what my friend did, and just capture the 13 Colonies by taking all their provinces the old fashioned way

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**English Total War Gamer** · May 06, 2010, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by ElMikkino

In my experience, it's pretty easy to take out France in the Americas (they only trained archers and mounted native gunners in my experience, and not very many of em), so just train a decent army of about 7 units in Moose Factory, and you'll easily be able to take all 4 French provinces in New France (or does Newfoundland not start out French?).

Also, in Europe, France has never invaded Britain, or Sweden (which I won in a war), but they have attacked my ports, which is a bit annoying, but only a minor problem.

Alternatively, you could do what my friend did, and just capture the 13 Colonies by taking all their provinces the old fashioned way

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I would do that but I cant be bothered with Rebellions and all that, lol.

**Hurricane Brad** · May 06, 2010, 09:40 PM

I'm playing a campaign with Great Britain too, short campaign at year 1736 now.

I ignored France's American colonies for the most part, though I got drawn into a war with them very early in the campaign. They attacked the United Provinces, my ally, and sent most of their forces to fight them. They took Amsterdam, but I took Paris on the next turn, building up my forces there (and quelling a rebellion or two) until I took them out in Europe altogether, causing their American colonies to go rebel. The only French colony I took while it was still under French control was Quebec, in order to gain control of the 13 colonies. I kept France's European ports under blockade for the duration of my war against them, so they were probably too poor to field much of an army in America.

Most of my military efforts in the Americas were concentrated on the Spanish and the Cherokee. I took all of the Spanish islands in the Carribean first since they were lightly defended, then landed an army in Florida and began expanding into Cherokee lands to fulfill my objective and gain control of the 13 colonies. My war effort was hindered by the constant raids of pirates and the Spanish on my trade routes, which nearly bankrupted me at one point until I did some more Industry research and built more $ generating buildings. This was a real pain in the ass for me because I had no navy to speak of save for the ships I started with really, because I suck at the naval battles and figured my money would be much better spent on the army. I soldiered on though, and got out of the red after a couple turns.

As it stands now, I'm ready to break the power of Spain in one fell stroke, with one army marching on a lightly defended Madrid, one army in Texas recuperating for the coming assault on Mexico, and one army in Trinidad and Tobago prepared to invade the Spanish holdings in South America. With the resolution of these old conflicts come new problems, however. The Maratha Confederacy has grown to dominate all of India, even taking Persia's territories in the Middle East. They are #1 in prestige, with myself at #2. I ended up at war with them some time ago, and a few turns ago they even attempted to colonize the America's, taking undefended Florida and Cuba from me. I promptly took them back and am preparing to send an army to India to pay them back in their own coin and take Hindustan, which I need anyways to achieve victory. Poland and Russia have grown strong in the east as well, defeating my allies Austria and Sweden, leaving me with only little Wurttemburg as an ally. They have not gone to war with me yet, but I'm sure it's only a matter of time. The last 14 years should be interesting...

**Rainbow Dash** · May 07, 2010, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by English Total War Gamer

I would do that but I cant be bothered with Rebellions and all that, lol.

I've actually never suffered a rebellion in New France, just send the Protestant missionary to New France before your armies get there!

**War&Politics** · May 07, 2010, 11:26 AM

Actually I prefer to keep them as a protectorate. I usually try to get one or two territories in North America which I use to train troops to defend the colonies against attack. For example I trade Jamaica for Maryland, and maybe try to capture one of the French territories. This along with the Bahamas allows me to respond to any attack on my colonies quickly. If you defend them initially the colonies will become quite powerful and you don't have to bother with the hassle of running them yourself.