KH Questions

[KnightOfCydonia]

I was just wondering since it seemed like KH is more of a desperate alliance to stave of Macedonian influence, how would it make the transition to an empire once the Macedonians had been subjugated. Thoughts?

Also curious as to why the phalangite formation is referred to as the phalanx and the hoplite formation is not when they seem pretty similar to me (barring the fact one uses the sarissa and one the xyston Edit: and smaller shield too on phals but aren't they both still in phalanx formation?). I believe i see this a bit on the forums and in game.

Oh and one last question does the KH reform tied to the March of Time allow for recruitment of better cavalry and phalangites?

[torongill]

How about "The United City States of Hellas, Europe and Asia"?

Phalanx in the game is reserved for the macedonian style phalanx, also called the hellenic phalanx. The phalanx of the greek hoplite was the "hoplite phalanx" and it's just the same as the shieldwall formation. If you're playing EB with BI, the hoplites have the shieldwall enabled.

[sabaku_no_gaara]

How about "The United City States of Hellas, Europe and Asia"?

Phalanx in the game is reserved for the macedonian style phalanx, also called the hellenic phalanx. The phalanx of the greek hoplite was the "hoplite phalanx" and it's just the same as the shieldwall formation. If you're playing EB with BI, the hoplites have the shieldwall enabled.

EB works with Barbarian invasion?


do I need a different version of EB for that

[Mediolanicus]

Unoffical su-mods forum - EB with BI.

No, you just need EB and modify that. Anything Vanilla can work on the BI engine, even RTW Vanilla itself.

[Xerrop]

I was just wondering since it seemed like KH is more of a desperate alliance to stave of Macedonian influence, how would it make the transition to an empire once the Macedonians had been subjugated. Thoughts?

Well there won´t be an empire. Athens and Sparta would start the second peloponnesian war.

[Ludens]

I was just wondering since it seemed like KH is more of a desperate alliance to stave of Macedonian influence, how would it make the transition to an empire once the Macedonians had been subjugated. Thoughts?

True enough, and I understand holding them together will be far more difficult in EB2.

Also curious as to why the phalangite formation is referred to as the phalanx and the hoplite formation is not when they seem pretty similar to me (barring the fact one uses the sarissa and one the xyston Edit: and smaller shield too on phals but aren't they both still in phalanx formation?). I believe i see this a bit on the forums and in game.

The term phalanx is pretty vague: Caesar uses it at one point to describe the Helvetians, suggesting it was used for any ordered (spear?) formation. In history, the Macedonian phalanx was called syntagma if I am not mistaken. The programmers of the original R:TW decided to lump both the hoplite phalanx and the pike phalanx into one category and gave them both the phalanx special ability. However, by EB's time-frame hoplites had become better trained and more flexible. They also could and did charge, so the slow-moving phalanx special ability is not suitable for them.

Oh and one last question does the KH reform tied to the March of Time allow for recruitment of better cavalry and phalangites?

The only thing that changes for the KH when the MoT occurs is that they can recruit an unique phalangite unit.

[Scipio Africanus Maximus]

I was just wondering since it seemed like KH is more of a desperate alliance to stave of Macedonian influence, how would it make the transition to an empire once the Macedonians had been subjugated. Thoughts?

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[Faramir D'Andunie]

It could possibly end up the same way the Delian League ended up becoming the Athenian Alliance/empire. In a way with the lack of an enemy breathing down their necks, some cities wish contribute to the Koinon with cash rather than men/ships and the military power gets tied in a few cities (or a single one?) that eventually turn that military against anyone willing to leave the alliance.

Another posibility would be the outbreak of a civil war among the members of the Alliance, and the one that wins gets control of the Koinon.

Makes you really wonder that the EB team has in mind when they said that they plan to make the KH be hard to be kept together in the long run in EB2.