Mario Reforms, just a question

[melpi65]

Hello, at first, sorry for my english and i want to say thank you for the Mod, is amazing, really great, i'm having a lot of hours or fun thanks.
I have a question about the Marian reforms, the first time that i tried to play with cheats i didnt have the reforms, so i started again but just doing 2 things: i've changed the end time date, because i want to play a lot and a lot (that is not a cheat i guess) but i changing also de starting amount of denari of Julius, no a lot but well... and i didnt have the reforms neither, so that thing that i've changed was also a cheat??, just that thanks people!! and thanks!

[Hesus de bodemloze]

Reforms take place after you destroyed carthage and updated there cities with imperial/royal palace.

[melpi65]

Hello, thanks for the answer, i did it in all cities almost, but the problem is the same, could be the reason the fact to had change the descr_strat, i just change the amount of denafir for the julies and the end date, and i already have all a lot of cities with that palace, and i destroy the cartagenian factions, do i need anything else? thanks!

[Raglan]

changing the end date is pointless. since the game allows you to continue past that point anyway.

the readme states that imperial palaces need to be built in all carthagian cites. It sounds like you weren't quite patient enough.

[melpi65]

OK, i'll try it again, i'll wait, and another thing, i always play in Very Hard, rellly people, how do you do to survive the first turns, for me is impossible, specialy with two Cartaghenian Armies, as always thanks! good night people see you tomorrow

[Ejergard]

Play on M/M. Mod is designed for this

[melpi65]

Play on M/M. Mod is designed for this

Really??? why??? whats the meaning of that? only can be used on Medium? but the battles on that point are really easy, on very hard are the enemies are almost invencible, at least for me, i has to use a lot of things, bridges battles, things like that,i'll try on M-M as you say but it seems to be more easy doesnt it? thanks!

[Ejergard]

Yes individual battles are easier, but the whole strategical campaign is still challenging. So challenging that we've never heard of anyone finishing the game. There are several events such as rebellions and civil wars that will make your campaign difficult enough on medium.
I recommend M/M and following the houserules, but it's up to you ofcourse.

[melpi65]

I red about the houserules, but i still prefer the VH option, because the armies of the IA are hughes, and more epical and difficult, for that difficulty i Love the game, but i'll love more than ever when I will have the imperial troops, the auxilia are amazing also, i love the game jaja.

The game is really easier with the anothers factions, for example Cartaghe and the Greeks, but with the romans in VH is impossible for me, is imposssible to challenge the Greeks in Italy and Cartahge also in italy and Gauls also in italy, is impossible only with 3 or four legions, i guess with 1 more legion in the north, and 1 more legion on south, specialy in messa could be more easier, but in VH the hastati are crap against almost all Spearman of cartahege and greeks, specialy greeks, and when we talk about elephant, the beasts are invencible some times, speciialy without velites, so i forgot the epical battles, i preffer to catch them one for one (in spanish it's calls aproximacion indirecta), before to engange the big army, was a really good job to create this mod, thank you!

[melpi65]

Hello, i've started again with the romans in VH, i've edited the denaries amount, just that, i didnt use any cheat, i conquered north africa, hispania, all the gauls territories, i killed all cartaghe, gauls and iberian rebeles factions, and also conquered cidonia and Rodes, i'm in 114 BC i do not have the mario reforms, is normally? i saw that the reformes started at 107BC, so gonna be like it was on really life?? or do i have to do another extra thing? just that people, thanks!

[Ejergard]

Any cheat, including changing money may corrupt the reforms.
The reforms may happen whenever, to my knowledge you are not limited to a set year, some have had them very early, others have willingly waited until late. You need all the original starting locations of Carthage plus entire Italy and you need royal or imperial palaces in all. The exact circumstances aren't known, but this should do the trick.

[melpi65]

So. do i have to start again?

[BeingOwned:)SPQR]

The only cheat not to affect the reforms is toggle_fow, changing the money through descr_strat can cease the Imperial Reforms, which means a really long wait, i did that and didnt get them till 79BC, using process_cq to build the palaces completely removes the Reforming event for some strange reason...