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    How did this man manage to journey from Tunisia to Ipswich, England, during the 13th century?



    It's not clear how the man would have made his way from Tunisia to Ipswich, the southeast England town where his skeleton was unearthed in the 1990s.


    THE GIST
    • Analysis of a 13th century skeleton found in England reveal the man to be from Tunisia.
    • This skeleton represents the earliest physical evidence that Africans resided in England.


    A 13th century skeleton unearthed on the grounds of a friary may be the earliest physical evidence that Africans lived in England in medieval times, a team of researchers said Sunday.
    Forensics experts at the University of Dundee Scotland say that the bones most likely belonged to a man from modern-day Tunisia who spent about a decade living in England before he died.
    "I believe that this is the first physical evidence of Africans in medieval England," said Jim Bolton, a historian at Queen Mary, University of London who wasn't involved in the discovery.
    "Finding a skeleton like this is of major interest," he said.
    The man -- who appears to have died of a spinal abscess -- was identified as African by studying his skeleton and the historical record of the friary where he was buried.



    "It's not just the skin tone; it's a question of bone structure," said Xanthe Mallett, an expert at the Center for Anatomy and Human Identification in Dundee. She said the size of the nasal bone or the shape of the orbits differed depending on whether skeletons were European or African.
    "You can have an idea of where somebody is from by looking at their skeletal features," she said.
    Researchers were able to pin the man to Tunisia using isotope analysis, a technique which looks at the mix of elements that build up in a person's teeth, bones or other tissues. Since people from different areas tend to accumulate such elements in different ways, analysis of their remains can sometimes pinpoint where they grew up, where they lived or even their diet.
    "Each area has a different isotopic signature," she said.
    It's not clear how the man would have made his way from Tunisia to Ipswich, the southeast England town where his skeleton was unearthed in the 1990s. The BBC's "History Cold Case" program, which is publicizing the finding, suggested that he may have been brought back during the Crusades, although Mallett and Bolton both hypothesized he could have conceivably come through Spain, parts of which were then under Muslim rule.
    His burial on consecrated ground suggests that not only must he have converted to Christianity, he may have gone on to become a respected member of society.
    "He would have had to been of some note to be buried in the friary," Mallett said.
    Bolton said it was extremely difficult to find evidence of any Africans in England between the fall of the Roman Empire and the Age of Exploration. He added that the find illustrated that there was still a lot to learn about how often or widely people traveled -- either within England, Europe, or the wider world -- during that period.
    "We don't know much about the migration of ordinary people," he said.




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    My ex is from Ipswich.This thread reminded me of her.Thank you davide

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    Sorry man, next time i'll ask operator to find skeletons off that area

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    We're cool

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    A BBC documentary will be revealing that a medieval African lived in England in the thirteenth century and was buried in a friary in Ipswich. This is the earliest evidence that an African was living in the country since the Roman period.

    The programme, History Cold Case, will be broadcasting its premiere episode on Thursday night on BBC 2. It follows a team of experts from the Centre for Anatomy and Human Identification at the University of Dundee as they analyze a skeletons from history.

    The male skeleton they discovered has been carbon dated to the period 1190-1300, and from examinations of the skull, teeth and thigh bone, it was determined that the man originally came from Tunisia.

    It has been suggested that the person may have been captured during the crusades. His body was buried in a Carmelite priory known as the Ipswich Whitefriars. The monastic house stood near the centre of the medieval town of Ipswich, the county of Suffolk. The Priory was founded around the years 1278-79 and lasted until the Dissolution of the Monasteries in the 1530s. Nothing above ground remains of the site but the priory's cemetery has been explored by archaeologists.

    The discovery of the man in the priory's cemetery suggests that the African man was a Christian by the time he died, and that he was not just a servant or slave. "He would have had to been of some note to be buried in the friary," said Xanthe Mallett, one of the members of the Centre for Anatomy and Human Identification who is part of the show.

    According to programme notes for History Cold Case, the show will reveal a facial reconstruction and "discover the tragic truth about how he died."

    According to the Times, three people identified in tax records as black Africans lived in England in the fifteenth century.

    Earlier this year it was revealed that the remains of an African woman living in the city of York during the 4th century AD. Click here to read the article Africans in Roman York?


    Source: http://medievalnews.blogspot.com/201...n-england.html

    Thursday, 20:55 on BBC Two (Scotland, Wales only)

    Ipswich Man
    1/4. An apparently African skeleton is unearthed near a medieval monastery.





    History series which sees skeletons of everyday people from across the ages analysed in staggering detail, opening new windows on the history of our forebears by literally revealing the person behind the skeleton. The fascinating work of world-renowned Professor Sue Black OBE and her team at the Centre for Human Anatomy and Identification at the University of Dundee comes under the spotlight as the team works on answering three big questions from the skeleton. Who were they? Why did they die? What does their life story tell us that we didn't know before?
    Using the full arsenal of modern forensic anthropology remarkable stories emerge from long forgotten bones, along with the faces of people who haven't been seen for hundreds of years. Bodies are unearthed in a range of circumstances, from a medieval body unearthed at a Scottish castle, to a heavily scarred Georgian woman discovered in a mass burial pit in London. None of the skeletons is famous; all are everyday people, whose extraordinary stories would have died with them if it weren't for Sue Black and her colleagues. With forensic science techniques such as carbon dating, bone chemical analysis and facial reconstruction, they find new layers of detail to add to our knowledge of Britain's past.
    An apparently African skeleton, unearthed near a medieval English monastery, pushes Professor Sue Black's forensics team to their limits. Bone analysis offers clues about the true origins of the mysterious skeleton and facial reconstruction painstakingly reveals his face, not seen for centuries. The historical trail points to new evidence about British ancestry and the case takes an unexpected twist when they discover the tragic truth about how he died.


    Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00sbjp7

    Last edited by DAVIDE; May 03, 2010 at 05:09 PM.

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    It's Morgan Freeman




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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMofo View Post
    It's Morgan Freeman
    Being from the north of Africa - Tunisia doesn't he necessarily sub-Saharan(black).. Africa is a multiracial continent..

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    Default Re: Medieval African found buried in Ipswich, England

    I mean people could walk at those times and england was not unknown to tunisians.

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    I was implying it was because morgan freeman was in the old robin hood movie with kevin costner.




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    Default Re: Medieval African found buried in Ipswich, England

    She said the size of the nasal bone or the shape of the orbits differed depending on whether skeletons were European or African.
    Well, they are talking about differences in the bone structure so I guess he wasn't an average mediterranean looking Tunisian Arab or Berber.

    The male skeleton they discovered has been carbon dated to the period 1190-1300
    This may have something to do with it.
    The coasts were held briefly by the Normans of Sicily in the 12th century and the following Arab reconquest made the last Christians in Tunisia disappear.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunisia...-Muslim_Period
    Replace disappear with emigrate and things begin to make some sense

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    There were a lot of Christians living in modern day Tunesia during the 13th Century. It was even assumed by Louis IX and his councilors that Muhammad I al-Mustansir was ready for conversion if only backed up by a strong Christian army. This was the background for the first phase of the 7th Crusade, what ended with Louis' death 1270 in Tunis.

    That way it would have been rare an event, but not completely out of question, that native Tunesian monks were travelling in Europe, spent time in abbeys and might have been burried there.

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    Damn immigrants! Stealing english graves
    Seriously though, this is fascinating news. But when they say African,
    do they mean berber or arab African? Because there
    is an account of a berber cleric travelling to England at an
    even earlier date. Since it's Tunisia, I'm assuming this chap
    wasn't black, though for all I know there may have been a
    black population in Tunisia at that time.
    Screw multiculturalism and the horse it rode in on



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