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    Icon9 Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    By Heidi Blake
    Published: 1:05PM BST 02 May 2010

    Dale McAlpine was charged with causing “harassment, alarm or distress” after a homosexual police community support officer (PCSO) overheard him reciting a number of “sins” referred to in the Bible, including blasphemy, drunkenness and same sex relationships.

    The 42-year-old Baptist, who has preached Christianity in Wokington, Cumbria for years, said he did not mention homosexuality while delivering a sermon from the top of a stepladder, but admitted telling a passing shopper that he believed it went against the word of God.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...-is-a-sin.html

    Either they dont have free speech in the UK or this is some act of some anti-religious bigot in the police force.

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    Well I think it's bs to arrest him.
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    Either they dont have free speech in the UK or this is some act of some anti-religious bigot in the police force.
    It's the former.

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    Default Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    to be fair, the bible DOES explicitly say that homosexuality is a sin, hes neither lying nor being alarmist.
    Maybe you think the bible is a bunch of nonsense, but that doesnt mean hes not telling the truth.
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    There always seems to be more to a story which makes me think he might of been causing more trouble than he claims. Although if hes telling the truth about what happend then he shouldnt have been arrested.

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    Well the old testament is a lot of nonsense I agree. I stick with the new one, lesser influenced by the pharisees ; )

    On topic: Freedom of speech with limitations is no freedom of speech.
    Personally I dont care if someone is attracted by male butts, but for sure I hate it beeing preached as a sort of fancy, new progressive and admireworthy way of life...

    I do not think homosexuals should be harrased or violated, it´s nothing to be ashamed of- but for sure it´s nothing to boast with either.

    There´s a ton of other bible quotes that make the blood chill of certain groups, and in a forthgoing errosion of christian values/teaching in the west, church capitulates.

    It´s a shame.


    You cannot demand from the church, that it on the one hand mustn´t intervene in secualr federal affairs, but on the one hand let the state prosecute the church for preaching her doctrines.

    You do not agree with the church´s point of views? fine! But no justification to lock priests away because they oppose the eroding agendas we are subjugated to.

    And yes, in certain cases it is sin.

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    I will get seriously angry, after another paper other than the Godograph verifies the details exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Яome kb8 View Post
    I will get seriously angry, after another paper other than the Godograph verifies the details exactly.
    Is there a list of acceptable papers in the UK to source?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    Is there a list of acceptable papers in the UK to source?
    Depends on the issue. The Telegraph is known for Euroscepticism and Religious victim hood conservatism. The best we can do is hope for independent verification, and just to be sure cross reference vigorously.

    Quote Originally Posted by s.rwitt View Post
    Jesus, do you guys have any reliable papers? I mean papers that everyone considers reliable, not just your side.
    They are reliable, as far as papers can be reliable. Our national motto is pretty much ''Don't believe everything you hear in the papers''. I'm just saying this particular article is one sided. We only see the preacher's side of the story, and nothing else. The police don't exactly give interviews so frivolously.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    Erm...

    Telegraph - biased to Right wing
    The Sun - heavily biased to the left
    Daily Mail - Far Right
    Daily Express - Far Right
    Daily Mirror - left wing
    Guardian - center-left
    Independent - center-left
    Observer - center-left
    The Times - not sure which side but it has been known to spout blatant lies
    The Sun is a heavily right wing paper, not biased to the left.

    The Times is centrist, but Murdoch owned. It's rather credible. The most credible of all the serious papers in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Яome kb8 View Post
    Depends on the issue. The Telegraph is known for Euroscepticism and Religious victim hood conservatism. The best we can do is hope for independent verification, and just to be sure cross reference vigorously.



    They are reliable, as far as papers can be reliable. Our national motto is pretty much ''Don't believe everything you hear in the papers''. I'm just saying this particular article is one sided. We only see the preacher's side of the story, and nothing else. The police don't exactly give interviews so frivolously.



    The Sun is a heavily right wing paper, not biased to the left.

    The Times is centrist, but Murdoch owned. It's rather credible. The most credible of all the serious papers in my opinion.
    Anything Murdoch owned is suspect, he is rampant propogandist. Anyway, universally trusted newspapers? None. BBC and ITN are pretty much it as far as trusted media goes.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by justicar5 View Post
    Anything Murdoch owned is suspect, he is rampant propogandist. Anyway, universally trusted newspapers? None. BBC and ITN are pretty much it as far as trusted media goes.....
    Indeed, but he has less hold on The Times then he does say, on The Sun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Яome kb8 View Post
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    The Times is centrist, but Murdoch owned. It's rather credible. The most credible of all the serious papers in my opinion.
    This is Murdoch of Fox News remember. The Times can often go many weeks without seeming like a Murdoch paper. But at the end of the day, i always think about Murdoch. This is why i like the Guardian. Its as independent as they come. Still has an agenda. I think the BBC is the only medium that has active measures in place to prevent certain agendas from reaching the news desk. But it still happens.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    This is Murdoch of Fox News remember. The Times can often go many weeks without seeming like a Murdoch paper. But at the end of the day, i always think about Murdoch. This is why i like the Guardian. Its as independent as they come. Still has an agenda. I think the BBC is the only medium that has active measures in place to prevent certain agendas from reaching the news desk. But it still happens.
    Guardian is a pile of crap. They are blatantly bias. They depend on public sector job advertising to keep from going bankrupt. They've finally outed themselves as a bunch of liberals this election, after decades of urging the labour party to turn liberal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Яome kb8 View Post
    Depends on the issue. The Telegraph is known for Euroscepticism and Religious victim hood conservatism. The best we can do is hope for independent verification, and just to be sure cross reference vigorously.
    Agreed, but will not rule out, after all it was CSOs that arrested an Austrian tourist on terror charges ( he photographed buses).
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    What in the **** is Godograph?

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    Quote Originally Posted by s.rwitt View Post
    What in the **** is Godograph?
    I prefer calling it the Torygraph
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    Jesus, do you guys have any reliable papers? I mean papers that everyone considers reliable, not just your side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s.rwitt View Post
    Jesus, do you guys have any reliable papers? I mean papers that everyone considers reliable, not just your side.
    Apparently not it would seem

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    Police officers are alleging that he made the remark in a voice loud enough to be overheard by others
    ugh.

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    I always said if I couldn't live in the U.S. I would move to the U.K......

    But I change my mind, you guys got some weird laws over there. I think Japan will be my new choice......

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