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    No, not really. I just wonder how many of you here agree with the political platform of KKK. Ku Klux Klan;you know, white guys that use to go around playing knights and such. So instead of posting 20 polls, in the vein of "should black rapist be hung by the testicles?", I give the real thing. Enjoy!



    The Knights ' Party Platform



    The recognition that America was founded as a Christian nation.

    As James Madison, known as the "Chief Architect of the Constitution" stated; " We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves to control ourselves to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God."

    The recognition that America was founded as a White nation.

    America was born as an extension of White European heritage. Those who formed the very ideals that we cherish such as freedom of speech, trial by jury, innocent until proven guilty, free enterprise, etc. were of White European heritage. All of the early laws of the United States from its very inception restricted citizenship to White people and all of the early charters, laws, compacts, etc were signed into effect by White people.

    Repeal the NAFTA and GATT treaties.

    These "laws" given to us by the Democrats and Republicans is damaging to the American worker and will eventually put millions upon millions into desperate poverty.

    Put America FIRST in all foreign matters

    The first and only concern of our government should be for the citizens of the United States.

    Stop all Foreign Aid Immediately

    Hundreds of billions of dollars are sent overseas every year while our people remain in need, our schools need funding, our infrastructure needs rebuilding and our citizens fight to keep their bills paid. This money should be used to support the decaying Social Security and Medicare programs, to help send kids to college, and to rebuild our infrastructure. Keep American Taxes in America!

    Cut off trade with countries that refuse to establish strict environmental laws.

    We should promote a fair system that allows for a clean environment in our own country and does not interfere with the free enterprise system. We also promote an aggressive search for and use of non-polluting and clean energy sources such as solar energy.

    Abolish ALL discriminatory affirmative action programs

    The federal government has enacted programs and laws designed for the exclusive discrimination against those of White European ancestry. Promotions, hiring and scholarships should be based on ability and not upon a person's race

    Put American troops on our border to STOP the flood of illegal aliens

    America is being over run by illegal immigrants mostly from nonwhite countries who do not share the Christian European values of our nation's founders. Immigration should remain open to all White Christians throughout the world . There is not one single country that does not persecute it's White Christian citizens such as in South Africa where the violent crime against Whites is at an all time high. The entire reasoning behind the forming of America was to allow one place in the world where White Christians could live together in harmony without any outside interference from those of other religions or races.

    Abolish all anti-gun laws and encourage every adult to own a weapon

    The cure for crime in America is not take guns off the streets but to put more guns ON the streets. Violent criminals should be punished, but law abiding citizens should be allowed to defend their homes, business and families with out fear of the federal government treating them as the criminal.

    Actively promote love and appreciation of our unique European (White) culture

    We must recognize it as the bedrock of American liberty and self government.

    Outlaw the purchase of American property and industry by foreign corporations and investors.

    The land belongs to Americans and their posterity and should not be up for sale.

    Drug testing for welfare recipients

    We recognize that not everyone receiving assistance is on drugs, but those who are should not be receiving your tax money. Welfare should be for those who need it - not those who abuse it.

    Repeal the Federal Reserve Act.

    This illegally passed law gives control of our money to a private corporation. We must return to debt free money - interest free currency issued by Congress as prescribed in the U.S. Constitution.

    Balance the budget

    Just as any family must balance their budget so must the federal government. Accordingly all present federal debt owed to the criminal private Federal Reserve corporation should be canceled.

    Rehabilitate our public school system.

    We must remove the humanist influence in our schools and teach fact based curriculum to further the students knowledge not someone's opinion. Parents should have the option of private or home schooling if they prefer and students should be free to practice their Christian faith in the classroom.

    A flat income tax should be introduced to allow for the funding of community, state and federal projects.

    This should be the one and only tax allowed. It is the only fair way to collect revenue and does not discriminate against any economic class.

    Abortion should be outlawed except to save the mother's life or in case of rape or incest.

    Abortion is nothing other than government legalized murder. While we stress the need for a moral and Christian lifestyle, we applaud those women who choose to give life rather than murder one of God's children.

    We support the death penalty for those convicted of molestation and rape

    The only way to put an end to this cycle of abuse is to stop the sexual abuser once and for all.

    We support a national law against the practice of homosexuality

    This is a Christian nation and the Bible condemns homosexual activity and the perversion of our society which it encourages.

    We support the placing of all persons HIV positive into national hospitals

    While the AIDS virus is almost inclusive to homosexuals and those not of European ancestry, many innocent people have contacted the virus. Despite the moral character of a person, the virus is still highly contagious with new and deadlier forms coming out constantly. Everyone who gets it dies! Aids carriers should receive proper medical care while a cure is being researched. This is the only way to stop the spread of the disease. They should be kept from coming into contact with uninfected people.

    Restoring individual freedom to Christian America.

    People should be allowed to hire who they want, live where they want and practice the Christian faith as they please. Likewise people should be able to sell to whom they want , rent to whom they want and socialize and conduct business with who they want. The government should not interfere with the everyday lives of white Christian Americans.

    We support the voluntary repatriation of everyone not satisfied with living under White Christian rules of conduct back to the native lands of their people

    The brightest and best minds of all races will be able to run their own affairs without outside interference. To support their efforts we should provide the financial and technological resources needed for a limited period of time in the building or rebuilding of their independent nations. After that their success or failure is totally up to them.

    Everyone who can work should work

    A workfare program should be established to assist those who need help for a limited time. Furthermore we recognize that with an end to the insane economic policies which are currently engaged in this country, many families would not be forced into the welfare system in the first place.

    We support a return to parental authority without government interference in the raising of our children

    We want to see the National Education Association and the Child protective agencies put out of business. Child abusers should receive corporal punishment - if they abuse their children then they should fear the law. However, today too many freedoms are being taken away from parents in the so called name of " child protection". Child destruction is their real goal!

    We respect the right of homeowners and that no one should ever be forced from their home for the non payment of taxes

    We support state sovereignty resolutions

    Each state should be able to officially declare that any power of law not directly given to the federal government by the constitution can be nullified by the state congress. We furthermore recognize that the 10th Amendment means that the federal government was created by the states to be an agent of the states instead of the states being an agent of the federal government.

    We advocate a strong defense department to safeguard American citizens

    We believe that the defense dept. should consist of volunteers of both men and women with women being excluded from combat positions. Furthermore we believe that the defense departments sole mission should be to defend our borders and not those of any other country or nation including the interference into their private affairs.

    We support all U.S. veterans

    We should find those that are missing and take care of those who have come home





    So with which of the previous points do you agree and why?


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    Something of a Ramones fan, are we Garb?

    I wonder will you get many KKK lovers voicing their feelings here...surely not? Come on out closet racists! I dare you!
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    Abortion should be outlawed except to save the mother's life or in case of rape or incest.

    Abortion is nothing other than government legalized murder . While we stress the need for a moral and Christian lifestyle, we applaud those women who choose to give life rather than murder one of God's children.

    We support the death penalty for those convicted of molestation and rape

    The only way to put an end to this cycle of abuse is to stop the sexual abuser once and for all.
    hmmm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihil
    Something of a Ramones fan, are we Garb?
    Nope.I don't want to be burried in a pet cemetary.

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    After reading this I want to state *officially* that I'm not a racist, as you might insinuate this after reading my nick, which has nothing to do with the KKK or whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The White Knight
    After reading this I want to state *officially* that I'm not a racist, as you might insinuate this after reading my nick, which has nothing to do with the KKK or whatsoever.
    Tolkien fans are exempted of any critisism....


    On topic it is strange to see that many points in their platform are incorporated in other more...acceptable platforms and most important that it seems to represent the wet racist dreams of many conservatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garbarsardar
    Tolkien fans are exempted of any critisism....


    On topic it is strange to see that many points in their platform are incorporated in other more...acceptable platforms and most important that it seems to represent the wet racist dreams of many conservatives.
    Most of us conservatives are not racists. To say so is comple rhetoric and is not based in fact.
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    I do agree with some of the points, and other points surprised me actually.

    Agree With; Balance the budget, Drug testing for welfare recipients(on the condition that they be offered free rehab if they test positive), Balance the Budget (it can be done, it was accomplished in the 90s), Abortion should be outlawed except to save the mother's life or in case of rape or incest.

    points that surprised me;
    Cut off trade with countries that refuse to establish strict environmental laws.

    We should promote a fair system that allows for a clean environment in our own country and does not interfere with the free enterprise system. We also promote an aggressive search for and use of non-polluting and clean energy sources such as solar energy.
    I never figured the KKK to be a party that was especially concerned with the environment

    this point;
    A flat income tax should be introduced to allow for the funding of community, state and federal projects.

    This should be the one and only tax allowed. It is the only fair way to collect revenue and does not discriminate against any economic class.
    ruins the entire rest of their platform. since there are people in this county who make less than $15000, you would have to make the income tax like $3000 to allow these people to support themselves. a flat income would mean everyone would be taxed $3000. The government would not have enough money to support itself, let alone run the largest economy in the world.

    another thing
    Actively promote love and appreciation of our unique European (White) culture
    While I dont agree with the KKK's intolerant view of other races and cultures, I think they kind of have a point here. I see white pople in this country who think that they have no culture or ethinicity, becasue they are white. Especially those whose descendants came from England.
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    Not that suprising if you realise that the KKK a membership of 4 million and controlled several US state governments back in the 1920-30's (Irc). Theyve been playing politics for quite a while, the only reason they lost thier political influence in the US was because one of the Klansmen who was a senator (IRC) got convicted for rape...RAPING A WHITE LADY...thats the KKK repecting white womanhood (no really it was one of thier main agendas...the celebration of white women) for you.

    I met a few Aussies back in Uni who claimed they were supporters of the KKK (yes there is a chapter in Australia, although I dont know if it is legitamate like the one in the states), I had a chat with em and came to realise their views were just based on pure seething hate. Don't know what made them hate that much...

    Don't be fooled by these so called rational policies...if they get into power what do you think they are going to do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garbarsardar
    The recognition that America was founded as a Christian nation.

    As James Madison, known as the "Chief Architect of the Constitution" stated; " We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves to control ourselves to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God."

    The recognition that America was founded as a White nation.

    America was born as an extension of White European heritage. Those who formed the very ideals that we cherish such as freedom of speech, trial by jury, innocent until proven guilty, free enterprise, etc. were of White European heritage. All of the early laws of the United States from its very inception restricted citizenship to White people and all of the early charters, laws, compacts, etc were signed into effect by White people.

    Repeal the NAFTA and GATT treaties.

    These "laws" given to us by the Democrats and Republicans is damaging to the American worker and will eventually put millions upon millions into desperate poverty.

    Put America FIRST in all foreign matters

    The first and only concern of our government should be for the citizens of the United States.

    Stop all Foreign Aid Immediately

    Hundreds of billions of dollars are sent overseas every year while our people remain in need, our schools need funding, our infrastructure needs rebuilding and our citizens fight to keep their bills paid. This money should be used to support the decaying Social Security and Medicare programs, to help send kids to college, and to rebuild our infrastructure. Keep American Taxes in America!

    Put American troops on our border to STOP the flood of illegal aliens

    America is being over run by illegal immigrants mostly from nonwhite countries who do not share the Christian European values of our nation's founders. Immigration should remain open to all White Christians throughout the world . There is not one single country that does not persecute it's White Christian citizens such as in South Africa where the violent crime against Whites is at an all time high. The entire reasoning behind the forming of America was to allow one place in the world where White Christians could live together in harmony without any outside interference from those of other religions or races.

    Abolish all anti-gun laws and encourage every adult to own a weapon

    The cure for crime in America is not take guns off the streets but to put more guns ON the streets. Violent criminals should be punished, but law abiding citizens should be allowed to defend their homes, business and families with out fear of the federal government treating them as the criminal.

    Actively promote love and appreciation of our unique European (White) culture

    We must recognize it as the bedrock of American liberty and self government.

    Drug testing for welfare recipients

    We recognize that not everyone receiving assistance is on drugs, but those who are should not be receiving your tax money. Welfare should be for those who need it - not those who abuse it.

    Rehabilitate our public school system.

    We must remove the humanist influence in our schools and teach fact based curriculum to further the students knowledge not someone's opinion. Parents should have the option of private or home schooling if they prefer and students should be free to practice their Christian faith in the classroom.

    A flat income tax should be introduced to allow for the funding of community, state and federal projects.

    This should be the one and only tax allowed. It is the only fair way to collect revenue and does not discriminate against any economic class.

    Abortion should be outlawed except to save the mother's life or in case of rape or incest.

    Abortion is nothing other than government legalized murder. While we stress the need for a moral and Christian lifestyle, we applaud those women who choose to give life rather than murder one of God's children.

    We support the death penalty for those convicted of molestation and rape

    The only way to put an end to this cycle of abuse is to stop the sexual abuser once and for all.

    We support a national law against the practice of homosexuality

    This is a Christian nation and the Bible condemns homosexual activity and the perversion of our society which it encourages.

    We support the placing of all persons HIV positive into national hospitals

    While the AIDS virus is almost inclusive to homosexuals and those not of European ancestry, many innocent people have contacted the virus. Despite the moral character of a person, the virus is still highly contagious with new and deadlier forms coming out constantly. Everyone who gets it dies! Aids carriers should receive proper medical care while a cure is being researched. This is the only way to stop the spread of the disease. They should be kept from coming into contact with uninfected people.

    Restoring individual freedom to Christian America.

    People should be allowed to hire who they want, live where they want and practice the Christian faith as they please. Likewise people should be able to sell to whom they want , rent to whom they want and socialize and conduct business with who they want. The government should not interfere with the everyday lives of white Christian Americans.

    We support the voluntary repatriation of everyone not satisfied with living under White Christian rules of conduct back to the native lands of their people

    The brightest and best minds of all races will be able to run their own affairs without outside interference. To support their efforts we should provide the financial and technological resources needed for a limited period of time in the building or rebuilding of their independent nations. After that their success or failure is totally up to them.

    Everyone who can work should work

    A workfare program should be established to assist those who need help for a limited time. Furthermore we recognize that with an end to the insane economic policies which are currently engaged in this country, many families would not be forced into the welfare system in the first place.

    We support a return to parental authority without government interference in the raising of our children

    We want to see the National Education Association and the Child protective agencies put out of business. Child abusers should receive corporal punishment - if they abuse their children then they should fear the law. However, today too many freedoms are being taken away from parents in the so called name of " child protection". Child destruction is their real goal!

    We respect the right of homeowners and that no one should ever be forced from their home for the non payment of taxes

    We support state sovereignty resolutions

    Each state should be able to officially declare that any power of law not directly given to the federal government by the constitution can be nullified by the state congress. We furthermore recognize that the 10th Amendment means that the federal government was created by the states to be an agent of the states instead of the states being an agent of the federal government.

    We advocate a strong defense department to safeguard American citizens

    We believe that the defense dept. should consist of volunteers of both men and women with women being excluded from combat positions. Furthermore we believe that the defense departments sole mission should be to defend our borders and not those of any other country or nation including the interference into their private affairs.
    I disagree with the above. Meh. And if you can't work out why you haven't been paying attention.
    Cut off trade with countries that refuse to establish strict environmental laws.

    We should promote a fair system that allows for a clean environment in our own country and does not interfere with the free enterprise system. We also promote an aggressive search for and use of non-polluting and clean energy sources such as solar energy.

    Abolish ALL discriminatory affirmative action programs

    The federal government has enacted programs and laws designed for the exclusive discrimination against those of White European ancestry. Promotions, hiring and scholarships should be based on ability and not upon a person's race
    Outlaw the purchase of American property and industry by foreign corporations and investors.

    The land belongs to Americans and their posterity and should not be up for sale.
    Repeal the Federal Reserve Act.

    This illegally passed law gives control of our money to a private corporation. We must return to debt free money - interest free currency issued by Congress as prescribed in the U.S. Constitution.

    Balance the budget

    Just as any family must balance their budget so must the federal government. Accordingly all present federal debt owed to the criminal private Federal Reserve corporation should be canceled.
    We support all U.S. veterans

    We should find those that are missing and take care of those who have come home
    And those I agree with. They are good governmental practice or leftwing policies; in fact the party has an interesting mix of left and right wing policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeakus Maximus
    And those I agree with. They are good governmental practice or leftwing policies; in fact the party has an interesting mix of left and right wing policies.
    Do you know what the KKK is? No one in his right mind would vote for them. They are a disgrace to America, equal to the Skinheads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan
    Do you know what the KKK is? No one in his right mind would vote for them. They are a disgrace to America, equal to the Skinheads.
    Didn't you notice the number I disagreed with? The immense majority. And yes I know exactly what the KKK is/was: the Klu Klux Klan, a set of racist little ****s including some of the "best and brightest" (ha. ha.) in America.

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    Them professing to be Christians just defeats their purpose. As any real Christian obviously wouldnt and shouldnt be associated with their twisted beliefs. Its sad they honestly think they can be Christian yet have their flawed idealogy. Just another example of a group trying to capitalize on a viable and widely known name to prmote a sick platform.

    A few of those beliefs sound nice and all, but its one thing to just say those things and another to actually do them. I definately dont agree when they say white america and only single out white people. Diversity and equality are parts of what have made America so great these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da_TRU_1
    A few of those beliefs sound nice and all, but its one thing to just say those things and another to actually do them. I definately dont agree when they say white america and only single out white people. Diversity and equality are parts of what have made America so great these days.
    Very true; in fact, it can be more general: it is what makes Western society great. And yet every society has its own version of the KKK: the BNP, the Le Pen fan club (can't remember the name), et cetera.

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    Squeakus its nothing but propaganda, do you really think they are going to follow up on those policies? This is how they managed to establish themselves as a political power before. By fooling thier supporters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guderian
    Squeakus its nothing but propaganda, do you really think they are going to follow up on those policies? This is how they managed to establish themselves as a political power before. By fooling thier supporters.
    The fact that they won't fulfil them doesn't make the policies themselves bad. if asked what i thought of the KKK, well you saw above what i think of the members...

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    The KKK came up with the non-racist part of their platform to get some poor SOB to vote for them that does not know the truth about them. The KKK is as Christian as Pope John Paul II was an Atheist. They (I mean the KKK not the former pope) may claim to be chrisitian, but I can claim to be the descendant of King Arthur and rightful ruler of Britain, but does that make it true?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan
    The KKK came up with the non-racist part of their platform to get some poor SOB to vote for them that does not know the truth about them. The KKK is as Christian as Pope John Paul II was an Atheist. They (I mean the KKK not the former pope) may claim to be chrisitian, but I can claim to be the descendant of King Arthur and rightful ruler of Britain, but does that make it true?
    Well, are you?

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    I don't think so, though I had a welsh ancestor...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sqeakus
    The fact that they won't fulfil them doesn't make the policies themselves bad. if asked what i thought of the KKK, well you saw above what i think of the members...
    Ahh ok I thought all this debating with conservatives was messing with your head
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