[DEV THREAD] Causa Belli Mod Dev Thread (DMUC Minor Factions)

[♔hammeredalways♔]

good luck, as Xwhyzed did an excellent job there, I always tend to make sure I burn Budapest in his honour when the Persians march into Europe

[Lachdanan]

Any plans on working in a playable portuguese faction? They don't seem to have a complete unit rooster by what I've seen in the custom battle selection and most of South America is not in but anyway.

[ForteS]

So...for when a new version?

edit:

we will probably hold the releases now until the new DMUC 6.3 is released, so we can bring the sub-mods in line

ok...

[cagatayc78]

Xwhyzed and hammeralways
I'm back again.I'm very busy for the lots of things and work in my university but I finished aznauri cavalry model, I send you aznauri cavalry and aznauri officers (aznauri officers=georgian princes)
Officers are like these pictures and I made similar to these pictures.

Here is a possible Georgina Kingdom rooster. (weaker to stronger) (I will sent all models again in 2 days)

melee:

Metsikhovne spearmen (medium spearmen with small round shields) replace it european spearmen in Georgian faction (I made it and sent it)

Morige Jari (meidum swordmen, it was the regular army based on low nobles and peasents) (I made it and sent it)

khevsur swordmen (excelent swordmen with small round shields + guns) (made by sir digby chicken ceasar look at that mod: (tsar,kayser and ghaysar mod)
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=300198


guners:

Abhykza light infantry (good at missile attack bad at melee )light infantry troops (act as kurdish hillmen musketeers or azzars)(I made it and sent it)
Georgian warriors (gurian infantry) (act as a dessert warriors in morrocco faction) militia unit
(I made it and sent it)
Morige guners (dressed as Morige jari, avarage missile attack, but stronger in malee attack)(I made it and sent it same morrige jari model) (line infantry) ( stronger than normal cossack infantry)
Khevsuri Toposnebi [Georgian Khevsur Musketeers] (made by sir digby chicken ceasar look at that mod: (tsar,kayser and ghaysar mod) (light infantry)
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=300198

Mtsvelta jari (elite warriors with swords and guns) (the strongest line infantry unit in Georgian Kingdom) can make a square formation,can carry all european line infantry specialities) very professional unit I made it and sent it same morrige jari model) (line infantry) (disadvantages:very expensive to recruit)


cavalry:

Khevsur cavalry( with swords, small round shield and pistols)made by sir digby chicken ceasar look at that mod: (tsar,kayser and ghaysar mod)
Abragebi :those are outlaws, that usually steal horses, they are ecxelent horsmen and shooters. they ussually participated in th battles. they were dressed in chokhas. and armed with swords and muskets. colour of the chokha-black and grey. (I made it and sent it)

Aznauri cavalry ( nobles medium cavalry with swords and small round shields+ guns) (I sent it now,the officers must be noble -princes-) (A little bit weaker than ptis katsebi)

Pitsis Katsebi (means men of swear, elite cavalry with swords and guns) (I made it and sent it)

Mephis Spa (royal elite regullar cavalry wiht swords, guns or pistols and pikes) (body guard unit) I made it and sent it) (strongest cavalry unit in georgian kingdom)
Also georgian general model is made by sir digby chicken ceasar)http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=300198

Mercanary forces:
circassian mountaineers (light infantry) (I sent it)
cossack infantry (line infantry) (same as official etw model )
kuban cossack infantry (line infantry) ( I will make and sent it when I sent all unbugged version of georgian models ) Kuban host was mainly formed by osettians- a little bit stronger than cossack infantry in missile attack.
karachay cherkes cavalry ( I sent it in chrimean khanate unit rooster georgian kingdom and dagestan have it) (nearly same strength as aznauri)

wark cherkes cavalry (wark missile cavalry) (nearly same strength as aznauri cavalry) I made it and sent it.

Artilleries
Georgian kingdom have only light artillery units (but better than chrimean khanate and dagestan also nearly same as persian faction arttiley units) did not have a good heavy artillery units so official etw rooster ins historicaly uncorrect.
possible rooster may be-
-9 lber land cannon
-24lber land cannon
-12 lber foot artillery
-18 lber foot artilery
-24 lber foot artillery
-4 inch mortar
-large mortar

I will sent all Georgian Kingdom models again in 2 days because as you know I can not convert some of them in mesh format I try to convert it)

[molashkre]

Xwhyzed and hammeralways
I'm back again.I'm very busy for the lots of things and work in my university but I finished aznauri cavalry model, I send you aznauri cavalry and aznauri officers (aznauri officers=georgian princes)
Officers are like these pictures and I made similar to these pictures.

Here is a possible Georgina Kingdom rooster. (weaker to stronger) (I will sent all models again in 2 days)

melee:

Metsikhovne spearmen (medium spearmen with small round shields) replace it european spearmen in Georgian faction (I made it and sent it)

Morige Jari (meidum swordmen, it was the regular army based on low nobles and peasents) (I made it and sent it)

khevsur swordmen (excelent swordmen with small round shields + guns) (made by sir digby chicken ceasar look at that mod: (tsar,kayser and ghaysar mod)
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=300198


guners:

Abhykza light infantry (good at missile attack bad at melee )light infantry troops (act as kurdish hillmen musketeers or azzars)(I made it and sent it)
Georgian warriors (gurian infantry) (act as a dessert warriors in morrocco faction) militia unit
(I made it and sent it)
Morige guners (dressed as Morige jari, avarage missile attack, but stronger in malee attack)(I made it and sent it same morrige jari model) (line infantry) ( stronger than normal cossack infantry)
Khevsuri Toposnebi [Georgian Khevsur Musketeers] (made by sir digby chicken ceasar look at that mod: (tsar,kayser and ghaysar mod) (light infantry)
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=300198

Mtsvelta jari (elite warriors with swords and guns) (the strongest line infantry unit in Georgian Kingdom) can make a square formation,can carry all european line infantry specialities) very professional unit I made it and sent it same morrige jari model) (line infantry) (disadvantages:very expensive to recruit)


cavalry:

Khevsur cavalry( with swords, small round shield and pistols)made by sir digby chicken ceasar look at that mod: (tsar,kayser and ghaysar mod)
Abragebi :those are outlaws, that usually steal horses, they are ecxelent horsmen and shooters. they ussually participated in th battles. they were dressed in chokhas. and armed with swords and muskets. colour of the chokha-black and grey. (I made it and sent it)

Aznauri cavalry ( nobles medium cavalry with swords and small round shields+ guns) (I sent it now,the officers must be noble -princes-) (A little bit weaker than ptis katsebi)

Pitsis Katsebi (means men of swear, elite cavalry with swords and guns) (I made it and sent it)

Mephis Spa (royal elite regullar cavalry wiht swords, guns or pistols and pikes) (body guard unit) I made it and sent it) (strongest cavalry unit in georgian kingdom)
Also georgian general model is made by sir digby chicken ceasar)http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=300198

Mercanary forces:
circassian mountaineers (light infantry) (I sent it)
cossack infantry (line infantry) (same as official etw model )
kuban cossack infantry (line infantry) ( I will make and sent it when I sent all unbugged version of georgian models ) Kuban host was mainly formed by osettians- a little bit stronger than cossack infantry in missile attack.
karachay cherkes cavalry ( I sent it in chrimean khanate unit rooster georgian kingdom and dagestan have it) (nearly same strength as aznauri)

wark cherkes cavalry (wark missile cavalry) (nearly same strength as aznauri cavalry) I made it and sent it.

Artilleries
Georgian kingdom have only light artillery units (but better than chrimean khanate and dagestan also nearly same as persian faction arttiley units) did not have a good heavy artillery units so official etw rooster ins historicaly uncorrect.
possible rooster may be-
-9 lber land cannon
-24lber land cannon
-12 lber foot artillery
-18 lber foot artilery
-24 lber foot artillery
-4 inch mortar
-large mortar

I will sent all Georgian Kingdom models again in 2 days because as you know I can not convert some of them in mesh format I try to convert it)

great work

[cagatayc78]

Xwhyzed and hammeralways
I'm back again.I'm very busy for the lots of things and work in my university but I finished aznauri cavalry model, I send you aznauri cavalry and aznauri officers (aznauri officers=georgian princes)
Officers are like these pictures and I made similar to these pictures.

Here is a possible Georgina Kingdom rooster. (weaker to stronger) (I will sent all models again in 2 days)

melee:

Metsikhovne spearmen (medium spearmen with small round shields) replace it european spearmen in Georgian faction (I made it and sent it)

Morige Jari (meidum swordmen, it was the regular army based on low nobles and peasents) (I made it and sent it)

khevsur swordmen (excelent swordmen with small round shields + guns) (made by sir digby chicken ceasar look at that mod: (tsar,kayser and ghaysar mod)
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=300198


guners:

Abhykza light infantry (good at missile attack bad at melee )light infantry troops (act as kurdish hillmen musketeers or azzars)(I made it and sent it)
Georgian warriors (gurian infantry) (act as a dessert warriors in morrocco faction) militia unit
(I made it and sent it)
Morige guners (dressed as Morige jari, avarage missile attack, but stronger in malee attack)(I made it and sent it same morrige jari model) (line infantry) ( stronger than normal cossack infantry)
Khevsuri Toposnebi [Georgian Khevsur Musketeers] (made by sir digby chicken ceasar look at that mod: (tsar,kayser and ghaysar mod) (light infantry)
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=300198

Mtsvelta jari (elite warriors with swords and guns) (the strongest line infantry unit in Georgian Kingdom) can make a square formation,can carry all european line infantry specialities) very professional unit I made it and sent it same morrige jari model) (line infantry) (disadvantages:very expensive to recruit)


cavalry:

Khevsur cavalry( with swords, small round shield and pistols)made by sir digby chicken ceasar look at that mod: (tsar,kayser and ghaysar mod)
Abragebi :those are outlaws, that usually steal horses, they are ecxelent horsmen and shooters. they ussually participated in th battles. they were dressed in chokhas. and armed with swords and muskets. colour of the chokha-black and grey. (I made it and sent it)

Aznauri cavalry ( nobles medium cavalry with swords and small round shields+ guns) (I sent it now,the officers must be noble -princes-) (A little bit weaker than ptis katsebi)

Pitsis Katsebi (means men of swear, elite cavalry with swords and guns) (I made it and sent it)

Mephis Spa (royal elite regullar cavalry wiht swords, guns or pistols and pikes) (body guard unit) I made it and sent it) (strongest cavalry unit in georgian kingdom)
Also georgian general model is made by sir digby chicken ceasar)http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=300198

Mercanary forces:
circassian mountaineers (light infantry) (I sent it)
cossack infantry (line infantry) (same as official etw model )
kuban cossack cavalry ( I will make and sent it when I sent all unbugged version of georgian models ) Kuban host was mainly formed by osettians- a little bit stronger than cossack cavalry in missile attack nearly the same strengh as cossack ataman cavalry and aznauri.
karachay cherkes cavalry ( I sent it in chrimean khanate unit rooster georgian kingdom and dagestan have it) (nearly same strength as aznauri)

wark cherkes cavalry (wark missile cavalry) (nearly same strength as aznauri cavalry) I made it and sent it.

Artilleries
Georgian kingdom have only light artillery units (but better than chrimean khanate and dagestan also nearly same as persian faction arttiley units) did not have a good heavy artillery units so official etw rooster ins historicaly uncorrect.
possible rooster may be-
-9 lber land cannon
-24lber land cannon
-12 lber foot artillery
-18 lber foot artilery
-24 lber foot artillery
-4 inch mortar
-large mortar

I will sent all Georgian Kingdom models again in 2 days because as you know I can not convert some of them in mesh format I try to convert it)

Xwhyzed and hammeralways sorry about the delay. I will send all georgian kingdom models tonight.
Also I will write a kuban cossacks as a line infantry but in my research I realised that historically kuban cossacks did not have a proper line infantry units until 19th centruy for this reason I rechange name Kuban cossack cavalry

[♔hammeredalways♔]

looking forward to it, excellent work so far and these two will then complete the Eastern factions

[Shonos47]

Suggestion: Why not make all factions a "major faction" to see their prestige ingame? Not only that, I heard it also affects the AI.

[MatrixStorm]

Suggestion: Why not make all factions a "major faction" to see their prestige ingame? Not only that, I heard it also affects the AI.

Maybe we must make a mod where all factions are mayor factions and see what happens...

[ForteS]

Maybe we must make a mod where all factions are mayor factions and see what happens...

The prestige table will get a little strange i think
Any way I'll do that to one starpos just for the result

Edit: here it is, i think the result it's not the best...

[MatrixStorm]

The prestige table will get a little strange i think
Any way I'll do that to one starpos just for the result

Edit: here it is, i think the result it's not the best...

Lol!

Try putting in 1 mayor faction and see what happens...

[ForteS]

Hi, when are you planing to work on Hannover and Bavaria?
And why isn't Quebec in the list? aren't you going to work on it?

Other question are you planing to add this to unit_pack_compatibility_project?

[MatrixStorm]

Hi, when are you planing to work on Hannover and Bavaria?
And why isn't Quebec in the list? aren't you going to work on it?

Other question are you planing to add this to unit_pack_compatibility_project?

Normally, they were going to do every minor faction, including emergent factions.

[♔hammeredalways♔]

Hannover and Bavaria will be incorporated when we include POM's excellent German & Italian States MOD's

To date nobody had asked for Quebec, do you have any info., links etc. that can be used

Swiss is back now so yes we will include all the updates in the UPC

[ForteS]

To date nobody had asked for Quebec, do you have any info.

No i don't but i like to play with Quebec so i will see if i can find something

[♔hammeredalways♔]

cheers,

[English Total War Gamer]

Great work so far btw, forgot to mention that!

[ForteS]

Great work so far btw, forgot to mention that!

Hermm... I'm sorry I'm not a moderator or something like that but you can edit the posts for additional info

[English Total War Gamer]

Hermm... I'm sorry I'm not a moderator or something like that but you can edit the posts for additional info

I know but separate posts help my post count, haha

[alhoon]

6.3 disrepancies:
I'm playing prussia 6.3, CB lite and when I was fighting in India I noticed the following problems:
- Mughal archers could still climb walls like ninjas
- Camel gunners of the Mughals, the Shatu-something, have grenades. I play with grenades on. I thought I was going to really kick the mughals in one siege. They were sallying out and I had trenches, cannons on hills and a fence to keep my flank. Then the camel gunners just bombed my line! I won, but it was a costly battle.