Should we kill Serial Killers?

**First Crusader** · October 14, 2005, 03:03 PM

Question: think of the bloodiest, nastiest character you have ever heard or read about in the news. Should he be put to death, like he put to death so many people before he was caught?

DON'T JUST VOTE, EXPLAIN WHY YOU VOTED YES OR NO!

My opinion: HECK YEAH!

The subject of underage and female serial killers will be discussed later.

Of course there are "gray areas" concerning the death penalty. Right now we are discussing whether it should be used against only the nastiest characters around.

With current laws and red tape against the death penalty, Hitler could probably avoid it.

**imb39** · October 14, 2005, 03:06 PM

No...

**Boudicca** · October 14, 2005, 03:07 PM

No...!

**Denny Crane!** · October 14, 2005, 03:07 PM

Leaning towards yes.

Human rights? Surely death is better than 50 years in jail, plus the amount of money in keeping them always a factor. And the fact that they are the nastiest bastards ever to walk the earth and are usually guilty beyond doubt.

What about a babylon 5 style mind wipe?

Peter

**Vincenzo Morello** · October 14, 2005, 03:09 PM

No becuause killing them is simply to easy for them to get of with the murders they have commited but if you do kill them you should kill them in the most pain excuriating way known to man that lastalmost a life time.

**First Crusader** · October 14, 2005, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Vincenzo Morello

No becuause killing them is simply to easy for them to get of with the murders they have commited but if you do kill them you should kill them in the most pain excuriating way known to man that lastalmost a life time.

OK, lets do it that way then. That is an acceptable solution.

How about ripping out their fingernails and sticking their bodies halfway into a pirana tank?

**First Crusader** · October 14, 2005, 03:09 PM

Mind wipes would really come in handy!

But I doubt we will be getting those any time soon.

I am not sure why people feel sorry for serial killers.

If you visited to tell him that you feel for him, he would probably try to stick a sharpened butter knife into your eyeball or something.

**Denny Crane!** · October 14, 2005, 03:17 PM

Ah yeah but what about the moral dilemma of meeting the serial killer who's had a mind wipe could you treat him normally, nah just kill the buggers!

Who feels sorry for serial killers? Strange people, like feeling sorry for a rabid dog and we shoot them!

Bit strange we treat dogs with more common sense than humans. A dog is suffering to much we put them down. A human suffers and we just let them suffer. A dog goes insane we destroy him, a human serial killer gets locked up and writes bestselling novels.

The world is mad :-)

Peter,

**imb39** · October 14, 2005, 03:11 PM

No becuause killing them is simply to easy for them to get of with the murders they have commited but if you do kill them you should kill them in the most pain excuriating way known to man that lastalmost a life time.

Yes, that's right. Torture them.

Killing them is wrong because it is not the right of the state to take someone's life. The state would be exercising a right it has deemed wrong for an individual to take. I view it as state sponsored murder.

Even though this is about murderers about which therer acan be no doubt - a trial in Britain that took place 50 years ago has firmly set my mind against this. There are too many miscarriage of justices that happen anyway.

**Boudicca** · October 14, 2005, 03:12 PM

Yeah...let's get rid of the state!!! Anarchy!!! I always hated those serial killer like states having death penalty...

**Hamelkart** · October 14, 2005, 03:15 PM

Yes. After you put them through numbers of most terryfing ways of torture.

**First Crusader** · October 14, 2005, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by imb39

Even though this is about murderers about which therer acan be no doubt - a trial in Britain that took place 50 years ago has firmly set my mind against this. There are too many miscarriage of justices that happen anyway.

If we start killing murderers, potential murderers will think twice about murdering, reducing the murder rate, reducing the micarriage rate with it. Simple!

**Fenris** · October 14, 2005, 03:36 PM

Yes.

But not exactly, I'll explain.

1) This kind of person deserves to live like any other person. HOWEVER, since it prevented many people to live and will not follow the very rules of society (I'm not even talking about laws, but the fundments of social relations), we put them in some kind of big hole with nothing to survive except, let's say a small source of water (not filtered or anything) and a small ecosystem so they CAN survive. But they're all in the same hole, so they can kill each opther if they want. And there'S no way they can get out. Yup. Death penalty wouldn't be justice. I think this would be more like it.

2) Prison costs a lot of money to the populace, and it's not their responsability to assure the survival of such people.

**imb39** · October 14, 2005, 03:16 PM

I just knew I shouldn't have gotten involved.

**First Crusader** · October 14, 2005, 03:20 PM

I disagree on the mercy killing, but you have an interesting point on the serial killers!

I think the issue concerning this is that human beings need to be treated different than animals because people have souls.

But if a soul is evil enough to go around killing people like that, well, it is a soul we should remove from society!

**Denny Crane!** · October 14, 2005, 03:29 PM

Thing is about the mercy killing...

It happens anyway, doctors tend to give increasing amounts of morphine to the point where (and my biology suffers at this point) I don't think it kills them but it certainly helps them along. I know about 92 when my grandfather died it cartainly seemed that way to me.

I know humans need to be treated differently but its always struck me that we act with less common sense towards the situation becasue its a human. Its that whole idea that humans are sentient with souls makes us crazy with compassion.

Mental stop. I keep wanting to start talking euthanasia.

Kill the serial killers!!! :-)

Peter,

**GORE** · October 14, 2005, 03:20 PM

put them thru living hell, chop off ther hands, pop out ther eyes, pull out ther tounge, hammer nails into ther ears and make em live in a sewer.

other than that, pu blic execution, bring back the gallows!

**crazyhorse** · October 14, 2005, 03:35 PM

I think that we should put the most horrible ones to death if they admit to the killings. Then again, I'm sort of torn because of my religious beliefs (Catholic).

I definately don't think torture is alright. In cases of so called "ticking bombs" I'd condone it, but you don't have these with serial killers in jail. Maybe just make their lives extremely uncomfortable. Like diarrhetics in their food or something.