History of Islam and Christianity in Thera?

[Lord_Mecharius]

I was playing the game earlier and thought about this. What was different from OTL Islam and Christianity compared to the Islam and Christianity in Thera. Is there a established backstory?

[Borissomeone]

I believe it's loosely base upon the various factions histories from their real life stories, for example the Islam factions do draw some of their beliefs from Islam as we know it from the periods the factions are based upon. And the same could be said about the crusader factions. The Histories of Thera are slowly taking shape and the back story for each faction will grow as the Mod grows. I helped the mighty O'Neill write some of the factions intros and I did write some for the factions that do base their beliefs on Islam, I did a little research about it, but I'm by no means an expert on these things. Hopefully this answers your question and please someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[Torvus]

I've been wondering a lot of the same things, since a lot of places that exist in the Bible and the Quran don't have equivalents in Thera, and the Christian factions don't have any particular hatred for the Roman faction, so I'm guessing they aren't a part of the Thera Bible. It would be interesting to see some sort of explanation. Hell, I'd even be willing to write one, if no one else wants the task.

[Borissomeone]

I've been wondering a lot of the same things, since a lot of places that exist in the Bible and the Quran don't have equivalents in Thera, and the Christian factions don't have any particular hatred for the Roman faction, so I'm guessing they aren't a part of the Thera Bible. It would be interesting to see some sort of explanation. Hell, I'd even be willing to write one, if no one else wants the task.

One thing you may want to consider is that maybe the Christian factions have either lost knowledge about the Romuli or just don't know about them due to the 'Torment'. I think writing a Thera Bible would be interesting, but there would be many things to take into consideration that could make the task very hard.

[Julianus Flavius]

I like to picture the Romuli having a massive as empire, with it's capital on the vatican, controlling prettymuch everything bar the Lao Che and Mesocala and the northlands. They kill off the Jesus equivalent and all the normal stuff happens, then Romulus refuses to bow to Christianity and founds the Constant Empire in the far south. That's just how I picture it though

[Borissomeone]

I like to picture the Romuli having a massive as empire, with it's capital on the vatican, controlling prettymuch everything bar the Lao Che and Mesocala and the northlands. They kill off the Jesus equivalent and all the normal stuff happens, then Romulus refuses to bow to Christianity and founds the Constant Empire in the far south. That's just how I picture it though

I would like to believe that the Romuli never met a Jesus like figure and really only based their beliefs on the histories and back story that already exists in the game. And the Christians and Muslims have their own beliefs and all will clash in the coming years as the various factions meet and battle or join together in a alliance. That's what is great about this mod, so much history to be written.

[Torvus]

I like to picture the Romuli having a massive as empire, with it's capital on the vatican, controlling prettymuch everything bar the Lao Che and Mesocala and the northlands. They kill off the Jesus equivalent and all the normal stuff happens, then Romulus refuses to bow to Christianity and founds the Constant Empire in the far south. That's just how I picture it though

I have this same kind of picture, bar the Vatican as the capital. it's made pretty clear that Constantium has been the capital since the founding. I like to think they controlled most of the southern continent, Ibellica, Syrianna, and Europa. Then Christianity came along and drove them out. then Mohammed came and drove the Christians back and Viola, the world as we know it before the Torment.

[Humakty]

As Baé Eden is THE sacred place for christians, I bet Jesus equivalent lived there.

I think Romuli weren't that much up north, but only TFON could know for sure.

[YetiFatMan]

I've always wondered, as a Muslim, where Makkah was in this game. There's a province called Mekkei, but... it is in the New World, and doesn't strike me as a place where ISlam was born... no real Arabs natural there.

[TheFirstONeill]

I prefer to merely sketch the background and allow the player to paint in their own details, that way discussions such as this are possible.

It says in the ingame stories that both Mulsims and Christians believe that Bae Eden was the place where the first people were born. (hence Eden)

Mekkei has no relation to Mecca.

[Lord_Mecharius]

So Eden is a Jerusalem/Mecca?

[TheFirstONeill]

So Eden is a Jerusalem/Mecca?

Depends of what you think a Jerusalem/Mecca is

[TheFirstONeill]

This is why I believe that sometimes less is more regarding the faction histories. As it is you can all form your our idea as to what happened in the times before the torment. Whereas if every detail of the histories were wrote down you would be forced to aadopt a 'set' history and there is no way it could match everybodies ideal.

[Ozzmosis]

If the Bible of Thera were to be written, the uruks could feature nicely in it, methinks!

[The Holy Pilgrim]

They shall be my finest warriors,
these beasts who give of themselves to me.
Like clay I shall mould them,
and in the furnace of war forge them.
They will be of eternal hatred and beastly fury.
With great intelligence shall I bless them
and with the mightiest swords they be armed.
They will be untouched by plague or disease,
no sickness will blight them.
They will have strength, loyalty and courage
so that no foe can best them in battle.
They are my bulwark against the Romuli.
They are the Defenders of Demos.
They are my Uruks
and they shall know no fear.

- Callisto, on the Creation of the Uruk

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If you are a warhammer fan, you'll know where this came from

[Ozzmosis]

They shall be my finest warriors,
these beasts who give of themselves to me.
Like clay I shall mould them,
and in the furnace of war forge them.
They will be of eternal hatred and beastly fury.
With great intelligence shall I bless them
and with the mightiest swords they be armed.
They will be untouched by plague or disease,
no sickness will blight them.
They will have strength, loyalty and courage
so that no foe can best them in battle.
They are my bulwark against the Romuli.
They are the Defenders of Demos.
They are my Uruks
and they shall know no fear.

- Callisto, on the Creation of the Uruk

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

If you are a warhammer fan, you'll know where this came from

Excellent! Every faction should have their own poem!

[Lord_Mecharius]

Great stuff

[toluas]

All hail the poet!
+rep

[The Holy Pilgrim]

Here's a Romuli one I thought up

Go forth my Legions, onward to Demos!
Show them that we are their tamers,
that they must be obedient to their masters.
Have I not shown them love, kindness and mercy?
Have I not given them their freedom and joy?
How dare these wretched creatures raise their hands against me!
They show no respect to their King!
Purge the city of all uncleanliness,
be it Uruk or Man alike.
Bathe the streets of Demos in the blood of their treachery
and show them my all merciful glory!
Strike with your steely serpents,
and may it find the flesh of an Uruk
and cleanse him of evil!
I am Caesar Nero!
My word is law!

-Nero sending forth his legions to Demos

[toluas]

Another nice one.