here everyone debates north korea's nuclear and military threat/buildup
and what should be done about it. Rules keep it civil this is NOT a fire fight
style debate.
North Korea's military threat/buildup
here everyone debates north korea's nuclear and military threat/buildup
and what should be done about it. Rules keep it civil this is NOT a fire fight
style debate.
Foederatus
I think it will be cool to see America try and invade and subgugate N. Korea. So long as nothing TOO bad happens.
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cool?Originally Posted by Xeon
have you ANY idea what sort of casultys we'd be seeing?
Dear god man think about what you are saying.
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the problem with trying to force a regime change in pyongyang is that you'd see millions of refugees spilling over into south korea and china.....also, if he does have nukes, at the very least both tokyo and seoul are toast...even if he doesn't have nukes..seoul is instantly toast from artillery and tokyo might not get nuked but expect a lot of missiles headed their way........the best solution is what everyone has already been trying to do...get north korea to slowly open up and hope that kim jong il is succeeded by a saner son....i.m.o., it's inevitable that the north and the south become one korea sometime in the future...i'm thinking probably 2050-2100...and then the american forces are "kicked out" of korea, simply because they're no longer needed...though i can honestly see the u.s. trying to resist that movement from happening, simply because it would be one less military outpost in their collection....
Let there be a peaceful unification of North and South Korea so we (koreans) won't ever have to shoot at each other.
Who knows? The one in front of my crosshair as a South Korean Army soldier might be my second cousin from my granpa's brother who was left in North Korea during Korean War.
Also, this peaceful unification will give:
Less excuse for Japan to expand their military. (Come on, do you seriously think Japan needs that many battle ships, fighter jets and LANDING CRAFTS for self defense?)
Less headache for US government and their concern.
Less hostility in China and Tiwan relations
Boost in Asian economy
more cuter girls (there is a saying in korea, which says that girls from Northern Korean pennisula are hotter and guys from Southern pennisula are cuter.)
Dux Limitis
Nothing can be done about it, they have nukes. Even if we build an SDI system they can have tac-nukes that can't be targetted by that.
Only covert ops can have any effect or if Kim Jong Il wants to turn the country into a 2nd china.
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Civitate
Does anyone actually believe that N.Korea poses a real threat to America?
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2) The merit of an achievement is the product of (a) its intrinsic quality, and (b) the ability of its creator.
3) The greater the disability (or handicap) of the creator, the more impressive the achievement.
4) The most formidable handicap for a creator would be non-existence.
5) Therefore if we suppose that the universe is the product of an existent creator we can conceive a greater being — namely, one who created everything while not existing.
6) Therefore, God does not exist.
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Dux Limitis
No, its just that people are forced by the media to think that Kim Jong Il is insane and will nuke at random.
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Saviors of the Japanese
Kim Jong Ill = Maturity of a 12 year old, but will not nuke at random
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Domesticus
Why would Kim Jong Il nuke anybody? If he did he'd lose all those palaces and 500k German cars he has.
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Civitate
Kim loves hollywood too much to bomb anything that might affect it.
1) The creation of the world is the most marvelous achievement imaginable.
2) The merit of an achievement is the product of (a) its intrinsic quality, and (b) the ability of its creator.
3) The greater the disability (or handicap) of the creator, the more impressive the achievement.
4) The most formidable handicap for a creator would be non-existence.
5) Therefore if we suppose that the universe is the product of an existent creator we can conceive a greater being — namely, one who created everything while not existing.
6) Therefore, God does not exist.
Garbarsardar's love child, and the only child he loves. ^-^
Vicarius Provinciae
Don't worry too much about N. Korea, it isn't going anywhere.
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North Korea, finally gave a meaning to the word detterence. I guess Donnie, Paul and Dick are mightly unhappy by now...
N. Korea wont do anything. if they do use nukes/aggressive action, than pretty much the entire world will turn on them, and China wont step in because they have to much at stake.
Hak Saeng
Anything happens in N.Korea and millions of people are dead, just plain dead, and this is without nuclear weapons. People seem to forget that the S.Korean capitol is within artillary range of the DMZ.
Mind you, Seoul is huge and dense (population) compared to L.A.
The whole situation will either worsen or just die out when his son succeeds him.
If I spam, give me another half hour to wake up completely.
Comes Rei Militaris
Oh, just wait for Kim Jong Il to die - that's the best strategy. Poison him!
Darkness is the light
The danger to South Korea is a real one, personally I don't consider it very great (it stands alone), but anyway.
But does DPRK really have nukes? Nobody seems to have any evidence, and everybody seems to believe the regime there.
From the IAEA webisite:
http://www.iaea.org/NewsCenter/Trans...l21022005.htmlSPIEGEL: Mr. ElBaradei, North Korea announced two weeks ago that it is now a nuclear power. Does Pyongyang really have the bomb? And if so, how great is the risk that North Korean dictator Kim Jong Il will use it?
MOHAMED ELBARADEI, DIRECTOR GENERAL, IAEA: I am extremely concerned about the development in North Korea, even though I cannot say with absolute certainty that Pyongyang already has a usable nuclear weapon. They certainly have the know-how and enough plutonium for at least six to eight bombs. A little more than two years ago, we had to shut down our last on-site monitoring activities and were thrown out of the country. This gave the North Koreans time to continue developing a military nuclear program. But they could also be exaggerating. The regime apparently sees the nuclear bomb as its only trump card for negotiations.
SPIEGEL: How will the world find out whether Kim is bluffing? And if he isn't, how can we defuse his bomb?
ELBARADEI: There is only one solution. North Korea´s nuclear facilities must be returned to the supervision of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). Pyongyang apparently feels internationally isolated, threatened militarily and in an economically desperate situation.
Edit: That interview was on February 21, 2005, btw.
Is there any new information? The world is waiting for a nuclear test, but it doesn't come.
Puppeteer
Well according the North Korea themselves they will easily destroy the whole world if they are attacked
Yeah, I can hardly sleep at night!
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