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    ...why Ai factions don't expand?

    I explain myself better: i'm plaing a new campaign with RS 1.6a + Alex and, in about 35 - 40 turns other faction don't expand their domains.... maybe one region each faction but nothing consistent....

    can some one explain this? or is simply to early?

    Thank you all for answering

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyVodkeR View Post
    ...why Ai factions don't expand?

    I explain myself better: i'm plaing a new campaign with RS 1.6a + Alex and, in about 35 - 40 turns other faction don't expand their domains.... maybe one region each faction but nothing consistent....

    can some one explain this? or is simply to early?

    Thank you all for answering
    I know why , and it's becease the Free People have to many Full Legions around there city's big garrisons also , and they all have good veteran status's , sometimes even a 5star+ general , some factions cant compeet whell at the very start , like trace and spain , greece , they get ownd so fast in the game , not even fun , no chance to play against them or ally or trade.

    carthage has a good range of regions nice money in the beggining , they can attk egypt and win , attk spain and own hole spain , and rome , and that greek faction in Cicile , give's them a massive cash boost , they have also 2/3 Legendary generals at the very start.
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    I say this so often that I must sound like a broken record.

    My games are the exact opposite.

    East:
    -In turns 1-3, the Seleucids lose a bunch of territory to revolt.
    -Armenia then slices the Seleucid Empire down the middle through aggressive expansion.
    -Pergamum and Parthia carve the rest of the Seleucid Empire.
    -The Ptolemies do nothing and it becomes a deadlock in the East.

    Central:
    -Gauls expand and crush both the Germans and the Romans.
    -Syracuse conquers Sicily and does nothing else.
    -Macedonia conquers Greece and butts heads with the Getae forever.

    West:
    -Carthage does nothing. Absolutely nothing.
    -Iberia takes a free province or two and then does nothing.

    North:
    -Sarmatia/Scythia and the Bosporans trade the same two provinces back and forth for eternity.

    This is how every campaign goes for me. Every time. Most of this action happens in the first 30 turns. A few nations are aggressively expanionistic until they run into each other, or until I conquer them.

    At least my neighbors always make it hard on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoogansQuest View Post
    I say this so often that I must sound like a broken record.

    My games are the exact opposite.

    East:
    -In turns 1-3, the Seleucids lose a bunch of territory to revolt.
    -Armenia then slices the Seleucid Empire down the middle through aggressive expansion.
    -Pergamum and Parthia carve the rest of the Seleucid Empire.
    -The Ptolemies do nothing and it becomes a deadlock in the East.

    Central:
    -Gauls expand and crush both the Germans and the Romans.
    -Syracuse conquers Sicily and does nothing else.
    -Macedonia conquers Greece and butts heads with the Getae forever.

    West:
    -Carthage does nothing. Absolutely nothing.
    -Iberia takes a free province or two and then does nothing.

    North:
    -Sarmatia/Scythia and the Bosporans trade the same two provinces back and forth for eternity.

    This is how every campaign goes for me. Every time. Most of this action happens in the first 30 turns. A few nations are aggressively expanionistic until they run into each other, or until I conquer them.

    At least my neighbors always make it hard on me.
    Mine campaign goes most of the time´s like this.

    East- turns 1-3, the Seleucids lose a bunch of territory to revolt.
    -Armenia then slices the Seleucid Empire down the middle through aggressive expansion.
    -Pergamum and Parthia carve the rest of the Seleucid Empire.
    -The Ptolemies do nothing and it becomes a deadlock in the East. [same like Doogans's East]

    Central:
    -Gauls expand and fight the Romans 4 ever , Germans exspand a bit deadlock or fighting free people's
    -Syracuse conquers Sicily and does nothing else. [same for me] or they got rolled sometimes by Carthtage only when i play the Romans.
    -Macedonia conquers Greece and butts heads with the Getae forever. [ same ] Dacia is very strong


    North:
    -Sarmatia/Scythia and the Bosporans get rock'd or keep 1 settlement somewhere east close to parthia.

    Honestly i think and i hope that these small nations get 1 more settelment , so they wont get wiped in 20 turns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xXEsotericXx View Post
    I know why , and it's becease the Free People have to many Full Legions around there city's big garrisons also , and they all have good veteran status's , sometimes even a 5star+ general , some factions cant compeet whell at the very start , like trace and spain , greece , they get ownd so fast in the game , not even fun , no chance to play against them or ally or trade.
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    This!

    I let all the free people cities rebel except Byzantium and the other factions expanded like crazy. Ai factions are noobs so they don't have the skill to fast expand when Free people are there to stop them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Souka View Post
    This!

    I let all the free people cities rebel except Byzantium and the other factions expanded like crazy. Ai factions are noobs so they don't have the skill to fast expand when Free people are there to stop them.
    yea , wierd try VH/VH , thats what im playing now instead of H/H atm now its a bit better less 5/10 turn wipe.
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    So nothing can be done? it's a bit annoing to play only against free people

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyVodkeR View Post
    So nothing can be done? it's a bit annoing to play only against free people
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=255865

    no rebel mod ... someone made a sub mod...

    but Honest play how it is now , rebels give u more timeto builf a empire... rather then a gankfest , specialy if u play romans

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    Thank you Esoteric

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyVodkeR View Post
    Thank you Esoteric
    nah real credits to Sindaram

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    yeah, i gave it a look and i think it's a good sub-mod but... according to me free people are necessary, maybe they should be underpowered and with less regions so other AI faction can get a chance against them!

    I'm not able to do this.... so if someone did it can he send me the descr_strat file?

    Btw, waiting for RS II and hope it will more balanced in this "area"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyVodkeR View Post
    yeah, i gave it a look and i think it's a good sub-mod but... according to me free people are necessary, maybe they should be underpowered and with less regions so other AI faction can get a chance against them!

    I'm not able to do this.... so if someone did it can he send me the descr_strat file?

    Btw, waiting for RS II and hope it will more balanced in this "area"
    nah they should have full town's veterans strong rebels no prob , but 4/5 Full Legions of them around 1 town that kill the AI Factions and Us.

    here's a link of my Campaign with Samartians/ Crazy Rebel STACK lol
    [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Wingmen/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.png[/IMG]

    Oh yea and thats why Region Orange , i had to show these Pontus that attackinh me without me doing anything bad is a no no , too some asian terrtory.

    And on the west i got dacians/germans/Macedonians fighting for that 1 town close to my Trace/Samartian towns i took , i bet they wana build a army close to me attack me, hell no !
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    But, in your campaign i can see tha AI factions are expanding their domains....

    Germas tribes rule all northen Europe, gauls were kicked out, iberian have conquered most of spain... seleucids, parthians and other easter factions are also "alive"... i can't uderstand why in my campaign AI faction sit there and wait :S

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    Default Re: maybe i'm wrong but...

    Quote Originally Posted by SkyVodkeR View Post
    But, in your campaign i can see tha AI factions are expanding their domains....

    Germas tribes rule all northen Europe, gauls were kicked out, iberian have conquered most of spain... seleucids, parthians and other easter factions are also "alive"... i can't uderstand why in my campaign AI faction sit there and wait :S
    I have it on 0 Turn recrute and Very hard/very hard mode? hmm dunno


    Oh and i use the Alexander .exe before i had SR on , i had all total war rome patch's aswell ,thought the Ai was fixed aswell.
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    Default Re: maybe i'm wrong but...

    Quote Originally Posted by xXEsotericXx View Post
    I have it on 0 Turn recrute and Very hard/very hard mode? hmm dunno
    try playing on H/VH, its far more difficult than VH/VH (because of some bug messing with the balance on VH/VH)

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    Default Re: maybe i'm wrong but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Themis View Post
    try playing on H/VH, its far more difficult than VH/VH (because of some bug messing with the balance on VH/VH)
    whats the bug then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xXEsotericXx View Post
    whats the bug then?
    I cant remember what the bug is, but trust us its more difficult on H/VH.


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    Default Re: maybe i'm wrong but...

    Quote Originally Posted by xXEsotericXx View Post
    whats the bug then?
    Money per turn is broken so you get more then you're supposed to do.

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    Default Re: maybe i'm wrong but...

    It also depends on what exe your using, I went from Rome to Alex and the results are noticable concerning the AI expansion.

    It also depends on where YOU are on the map, the AI further away from you will also expand more then for instance your neighbours.


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    Default Re: maybe i'm wrong but...

    I made a sub-mod with freepeople (britons) being Sparta, It works well for the factions outside of greece.... (rome actually does historical correct expanding, strangely enough). But GC, Macedon nor Sparta ever gets the overhand, and they're nearly impossible to conquer.
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