Jewnited States of AmeriKKKa

[Vermelho_Steele]

Ignoring the irrelevant, Conspiracy Theorist sounding title, this thread is about the country that everyone either loves or loaves;

The United States of America.

Today, it's fairly obvious that the USA is in some trouble; what makes this time of sickness for Uncle Sam is that it's juxtaposed by the rise of China and a few other Middle, Great and potential Superpowers.




Analogies between the great British Empire at the beginning of the end of her Empire, in the early 1900s, and the USA today in the early 2000s have already been made with some pundits already announcing the American Centruy over, to be overtaken by the Chinese/Asian/Indian/Anglo* Centuries which are next to arrive.

The troubles seem endless; a crushing recession, widespread unemployment, two wars
(one ill-planned , the other setting an impossible aim not to mention the unpopularity and lies), a very weary and disillusioned public, seeming plenty of foreign enemies or rivals and a yawning debt that, on a per capita share of the debt, is nothing ever experianced by the US before on top of shrinking American influence (political and economic at least) and the seeming meteoric rise of China in all spheres of nationhood (economic, military, global influence, technology etc).





So, has time run out for the Eagle of the West to be a significant player in this world of ours? or

Or do y'all think that the USA will, despite it's challenges, remain important power for a good while yet? or

Also, how would y'all feel about an American ruin or recovery?

(though, one must concede, no longer unchallengable or )




*A theory outlining the dominance of the English language and less bindingly, British spread systems like democracy and secular law. Who are the members of the Anglosphere? At its heart are The United States (its leading force) and the United Kingdom (whose culture and imperium gave it birth and made it a world force). Other members include Australia, Japan, India, Israel, Taiwan, and (less closely attached, militarily) Singapore, and even more distantly Hong Kong and Canada, which are controlled by regimes somewhat hostile to the dominance of the Anglosphere. Other nations participate in the Anglosphere in some realms, but not others, as they choose. The Netherlands, South Africa, New Zealand, Costa Rica, and Malaysia are examples of countries which join in some ways, yet stay outside in others. One could argue that China is part of this as roughly 300,000,000 million Chinese speak English.

From an article from the American Thinker.

[Amorphos]

I expect america owns much of the world in investment and business terms, or at least more than anyone else. Recessions aside its only a matter of time before it gets back on its feet, compared to most others its getting the prime slice of the cake, so how others will take over its position I don’t know. Short of a worldwide change from capitalism to a given other, I cant see america going down anytime soon. Maybe when resources run out.

[Poach]

The US is, and will remain, a major economy. The US will not fade away, new nations will simply rise to the same heights in terms of economic importance and international clout.

Well this mean the US will ease up a bit on the international stage? Perhaps, they'll atleast have to adjust to the fact that their word won't carry as much weight as it once did.

[Amagi]

The US is heading towards ruin. Either by war, or by economical breakdown.

[Amorphos]

How old is that video armagi, 1008-9? Last I looked us real estate was on the up, I sometimes watch Bloomberg tv channel and it looks a lot more positive.

[Boyar Son]

who gives a

[motiv-8]

who gives a

Um, lots of people, considering how vastly important the United States is on the world scene. The fall of America would not be a good thing, no matter how many crazies would like to scream otherwise.

[Boyar Son]

Um, lots of people, considering how vastly important the United States is on the world scene. The fall of America would not be a good thing, no matter how many crazies would like to scream otherwise.

Then answer the OP not me. To think, you could have been actually searching sources and devoting more time to answer OP's decade (almost) old question: "Will Murrika fall".

[jman47]

O look- its this thread again.

[motiv-8]

Then answer the OP not me. To think, you could have been actually searching sources and devoting more time to answer OP's decade (almost) old question: "Will Murrika fall".

The question is much older than a decade.. more like three. The only difference over this time is the question of who will surpass it.

[Poach]

For the US to "fall" it would have to be a very gradual fall coupled with a stready rise of China, India or the EU. The US market is simply too important to the overall world economy to disappear in a short time without massive consequences for the rest of the world. It is the same for China, India and the EU, all depend on each other, if one falls the others will suffer greatly.

[Heathen Hammer]

Indeed. Nothing lasts forever, and so is dominant position of US.
It will remain as an influential player, but days of uni-polar world are soon to become a part of the past.

[Gromovnik]

I always suspected that Jews did USA. Now I know. Thank you Gojira!

[Jingles]

lol @ Amerikkka. Vermelho, you've referenced something hilarious without even realising it.

[cottontail]

Relax, India isn't becoming a superpower anytime soon. Although they ARE improving, you only have to take a quick trip to realize the administerial and economic chaos that is still a major factor in India. For heaven's sake, there are Maoist rebels in India for god's sake! Maoist! That is not a sign of a massive and organized superpower just ready to take the throne. Riots are still a common feature and corruption within the government is rampant.

The EU have a better chance, but I still have doubts. They are still very divided and the organization that unites them seems to be very loose and artificial. If they get to be a more unified force, then they will be a major player, but until then, it is up in the air.

China seems to be the best choice, but even they have significant problems. Although they have little of the unrest India does ( an advantage of an authoritarian government) and less corruption ( see previous point), a large part of the population is still living under the poverty line. They are certainly the best guess for next superpower, but they will not overtake America's mostly middle class nation soon. I have not been to China, so I know less about its situation than India and Europe, but it seems America still has quite a lead.

So, while America should work on maintaining its power, it still has quite a few more years as top player to come.

So, stop running around scared

[the_mango55]

That OP made my eyes hurt, couldn't read it.

[Justinian]

It was worse in the '70s, and look how we rebounded from that. Now we don't have the economic pressure of the Cold War to deal with ... the USA will be fine.

[Vermelho_Steele]

@Volh: For once, I agree with you fully.

@Cottontail: Why do you assume I'm scared of another countries rise to preminance? I welcome competition.

[Lord Thesaurian]

As an American I believe that the increasing size of our government over the last 100 years has finally culminated in the election of a socialist to the presidency and the socialization of our increasingly corrupt government.

Obama is an aspiring dictator who made the mistake of underestimating the intelligence of the people. Americans are finally waking up and realizing that this is not at all what the founders had in mind for the future. And the government spending binges, bankruptcy, corruption, lies, propaganda and joblessness has finally caused the states to take matters into their own hands. We shall see what the future holds, but America is not dead yet, that much is certain!

[Treize]

As an American I believe that the increasing size of our government over the last 100 years has finally culminated in the election of a socialist to the presidency and the socialization of our increasingly corrupt government.

Obama is an aspiring dictator who made the mistake of underestimating the intelligence of the people. Americans are finally waking up and realizing that this is not at all what the founders had in mind for the future. And the government spending binges, bankruptcy, corruption, lies, propaganda and joblessness has finally caused the states to take matters into their own hands. We shall see what the future holds, but America is not dead yet, that much is certain!

Oh God it's the Teabags, run!