AMD's Six-Core Phenom II X6 1090T & 1055T Reviewed

[karamazovmm]

MR Shimpi is at it again

das link: http://anandtech.com/show/3674/amds-...1055t-reviewed

[mrcrusty]

Might as well repost since you started a new thread:

The Phenom II x6 1055T and 1090T Black Edition have been reviewed on Guru3d.

The link is here

In CPU heavy applications such as the Queen's Problem simulator on a 10x10 board, and the Mandel FPU test, both of the Hex Cores lie squarely at the high end, the 1090T almost equalling the Core i7 975 Extreme and the 1055T almost equalling the Core i7 965 Extreme.

It's less convincing in other applications like video transcoding, but they both still manage to snuggle themselves into the heap of Core i7's. It competes well with the i7's on a level playing field, unlike the Phenom II x4 965, which looked more like the benchwarmer who made itself onto team due to a plague of injuries.

In terms of gaming, it's basically what we all expect. At higher resolutions the difference in fps between processors become relatively minimal. Games are GPU heavy, and if the CPU is good enough not to bottleneck the system, then performance gain will be minimal.

Now, Overclocking is another area which really kicks into gear. Manual overclocking seems better.

The processors sent to Guru3d were able to achieve a stable overclock of 4.1 Ghz @ 1.425v using the old OCZ Vendetta CPU cooler. Now, it may just be my processor, but my Phenom II can't get over 3.6-3.7 Ghz without a higher voltage than that, so it seems like an improvement to me.

So to sum up their review:

"Now make no mistake, AMD is not competing with Intel's six-core solutions at all. They can't as performance wise per core they miss out on performance. But if we leave gaming out of the equation and look at content creation, 3D design, video transcoding etc where applications are heavily threaded then the Phenom II X6 1055T performs roughly at the level of a Core i7 860~870 ( 300~550 USD), and the 1090T closes in on the Core i7 950/965 (580/800 USD).

So this is value at its absolute best. But seriously, it's time for AMD to stop following Intel, and start to lead. AMD's processors need some sort of hyper threading embedded and make a move to larger caches and triple, maybe even quad-channel memory configurations. Value for money wise, you can't beat the processors tested today though and as such they are a pleasure to have inside any modern PC. A processor like this will bring a smile to your face.

Both the Phenom II X6 1055T and 1090T as such are very much recommended."

There's no way that AMD's hex core will beat Intel's in pure perfomance, it will probably get mauled by the i7 980x. In terms of perfomance, it will probably land somewhere inbetween the 920 and the 975 Extreme. But if the Phenom II x6's are aiming at the $300 USD price point, then they'd hit Intel squarely in the nuts. The i7 920/930 go for the $300 USD mark, and the 950/960, etc all go for much more. You may be able to literally shave off $150 in cost, buying a Hex Core, instead of a Quad Core, with performance that will match the higher priced CPU's.

Unless you really like Intel, it's hard to make a case against buying AMD's products instead. Of course, that's assuming that the performance lines up with what I'm expecting. Until the reviews come out, it's just my guess. But still, AMD Hex Core for 1/3rd the cost of Intel's Hex Core? That screams good value. Great for entry level.

AMD really have gotten to work on the whole "bang for buck" concept. Good on them.

+1 for me

[HansDuet]

Looks good, if these had came out couple of weeks earlier I might have bought one.

Not that I have anything to complain about current CPU.

[karamazovmm]

So this is value at its absolute best. But seriously, it's time for AMD to stop following Intel, and start to lead. AMD's processors need some sort of hyper threading embedded and make a move to larger caches and triple, maybe even quad-channel memory configurations. Value for money wise, you can't beat the processors tested today though and as such they are a pleasure to have inside any modern PC. A processor like this will bring a smile to your face.

That is just a stupid comment from the guy who wrote the review, it revels in his lack of knowledge in the AMD chipset, and its policy (as of sometime, not always) to try to keep the old chipsets from going obsolete in less than 2 years. They can't introduce this unless they create a AM3+ or AM4, since to introduce those the chipset and the processor have to have the same feature, so yeah, not very well thought out.

But I stand on the plus rep also, since the maximum pc and anandtech gives me what I thought a 10-15% performance over the 920.

What it constrains me the most is the incredible mixed experience with the chip, it can truly be said that this is not for gamers, this is for professionals. The infancy of the AMD turbo, and the sometimes issue with downclock that was already present in the phenom line, lead me to believe that this is not for a casual use, since what this chips gives is a great multithread experience, and multithread is not in the present as constant in games, is more like a very mixed experience, it works sometimes really well, and most of the times don't work at all.


So all in all, anyone with a AMD chipset, yeah go grab one, intel people, with a P/H55/57 don't need to worry, your chip is good, and will last. Do we need to mention upgrade if you have a X58?


All in all I think it was a smart move for AMD, since it fills the gap in the 200 to 300 bucks in intel line. The only problem is that since this new chip is not going to utilize the phenom II die, so it will be more costly to produce (since it cannot use the same process that is used in the entire phenom II line and the new athlons), so let us hope that the foundries are working alright to produce this.

[Freddie]

Time for a comprehensive new architecture, it's a good chip but out side of heavily multi threaded apps it loses it's appeal although the turbo boost looks as if works well to make up lost ground. I'm looking forward the 960T which is a quad core model produced from ex hex core candidates.

[Jaketh]

at that price, my next system will be AMD/ATI

[Top-Tier-Tech]

at that price, my next system will be AMD/ATI

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[karamazovmm]

the guillotine is ready, we are waiting thy orders!

[Jaketh]

ok maybe AMD/Nvidia, the 480 is the same price as the 5870 after all

[Freddie]

ok maybe AMD/Nvidia, the 480 is the same price as the 5870 after all

I didn't know you could get a 480 for $399.

[Jaketh]

I didn't know you could get a 480 for $399.

a good 5870 is 500 bucks, a 480 is 500 bucks

5870

GTX480

[Big Boss]

a good 5870 is 500 bucks, a 480 is 500 bucks

5870

GTX480

2gb adds nothing compared to this one for 459.99

[Freddie]

2gb adds nothing compared to this one for 459.99

True however the one he linked to is a Vapour-X model which means it has a really good cooler which allows you to overclock the card to a very high clock rate, personally I would get the HD5850 Vapour-X because it can be overclocked to within 4% of a HD5870 on max overclock.



Link

[karamazovmm]

god! call the fire squad

[neillombardi]

I am a fan of AMD however these days those guys seem to only be competing price wise. Looking forward to some groundbreaking innovation but have been disappointed in the last 2 years.

Now, if only they can put to good use their acquisition of ATI.

[karamazovmm]

they have. AMD actually made some bucks with it, this is the first year since almost a decade that AMD turns profit. Now in terms of tech AMD has improved the quality of the service and the gpu from ATI, what they really need is step up in their foundries and create some 32nm or less pieces of silicon, and improve that crappy AMD turbo. With just the improvement of the AMD turbo, the possibility of lead in terms of performances is very palatable, very possible.

[Big Boss]

The one I linked to is also Vapor-X.

[Jaketh]

The one I linked to is also Vapor-X.

id rather spend the extra 40 dollars in getting an Nvidia product that i know i will have zero issues with, plus i love EVGA and they dont make ATI cards

[mrcrusty]

Lmao, only Jaketh could turn a thread about AMD Hex Cores into an ATI/Nvidia thread in less than 10 posts.

[Jaketh]

Lmao, only Jaketh could turn a thread about AMD Hex Cores into an ATI/Nvidia thread in less than 10 posts.

i know im awesome, i finally decided on a 5970 i think