How to brainwash a nation

[Amagi]

Thats a really great vid, and I am sure it will make the one or other start to think.

This amazing interview was done back in 1985 with a former KGB agent who was trained in subversion techniques. He explains the 4 basic steps to socially engineering entire generations into thinking and behaving the way those in power want them to.

It´s a very worthwile watch, I recommend to see it and compare it to one´s own experiences.

Amagi

[HansDuet]

How to brainwash a nation you ask?

[Tiberios]

Yeah that would be a fine example of just how to do it.

[Vermelho_Steele]

Nice piece of anti-Statism and anarchism.

[Amagi]

The Nazi pic is wrong in so far, as the national strength and common beeing was advised- the direct opposite of what the former KGB officer talks about. He even mentioned the tools needed to gain access to a society:

Marxism.

Personally I was astonished about the large chunk these mind games consume, he referred to some 80 or 85% of the KGB´s entire budget. I can very well imagine that the secret services do social engineering as their main profession.

*Erases romantic James Bond fantasies*




He also labelled those infiltrators "shmoks", but that´s just for insiders ; )

[Strelok]

The Nazi pic is wrong in so far, as the national strength and common beeing was advised- the direct opposite of what the former KGB officer talks about. He even mentioned the tools needed to gain access to a society:

Marxism.

In the context of the KGB? More like corrupt regime turned Stalinist..

[Saxon wårolord]

He also labelled those infiltrators "shmoks", but that´s just for insiders ; )

O! Al Yahud, al jarb!


These evil Judeo-bolsheviks!

Oh, I forgot...Most Russian Jews were Menshevik, not Bolshevik

[Squiggle]

Nice piece of anti-Statism and anarchism.

o.O because every counter to modern Socialist-lite Governments are anarchy? Oh brother...

[Vermelho_Steele]

He also labelled those infiltrators "shmoks", but that´s just for insiders ; )

Does that mean the Jews are doing this?

[Boer]

Ok, he claims that demoralization of America was completed before 1985 and he implied that destabilization was far along, taking only 5 years maximum. That was to be followed by 6 weeks of crisis leading to take over and "normalization."

So, shouldn't America have collapsed in the early 90's?

[bushbush]

education in every country, especially history class, is a form of brainwashing. It essentially creates a mythology of your own nation in your head and build up national cohesiveness and legitimacy among its citizens.

[Finnduil]

How to brainwash a nation you ask?

When a person swelled by the modern materialism, alienated by individualism or in some ways "informed" person sees a picture of 30's Germany and how the big crowds of people raise their hand into a Nazi greeting, they immediately feel a pitying feeling how the "brainwashed" people "crawl" in the front of their leader. Conditioning has worked quite well. But what these people don't see, is the fact that also Hitler does this greeting.

So it's rather like rising a fist, an indication of common solidarity and power, rather than glorifying Hitler. The situation on 30's Germany was quite ill: the desecration of the old Germany and the liberal capitalism had alienated the people and created widespread social issues and the danger of the rootless bolshevism was present. The extensive, powerful organization like national socialism was a blessing to the German people.

Accusations of "brainwash" and of the personification of the national socialism in Hitler alone are baseless. You know, 1) every group, mass movement or a business has some kind of leader, 2) at that time strong leaders weren't that special, 3) Hitler alone didn't make the third reich to work, but Göbbels etc. were at least as important, if not even more important, just like the common people who did work for the nation.

These people in the pictures don't greet Hitler, but indicate their common mass effect. The motion of the national socialism was from the bottom to the top. If you did research, you'd see the grim situation in the pre-war Germany and why they were so pissed off, and thus you'd see that it was the people's firm will and came true just because of that.

[iudas]

I agree with Finnduil. The German people pretty much knew all the dirty business their leaders were doing and cheered for it. They were not 'brainwashed' in any way as they supported the very murderous ideas that make our blood curl today. They made their choice. The common folk were the criminals as much as Hitler and the others.

[Amagi]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I agree with Finnduil. The German people pretty much knew all the dirty business their leaders were doing and cheered for it. They were not 'brainwashed' in any way as they supported the very murderous ideas that make our blood curl today. They made their choice. The common folk were the criminals as much as Hitler and the others.

I agree with Finnduil aswell, butin contrast to you, I don´t fall for the anti-german propaganda.
See my thread: "The myth that germany triggered WW2" here in the forums to enlighten you a bit on the true sequence of action of WW2.

Also I can hint you at the german whitebooks, where all diplomatic correspondence prior to the war can be seen.

It was not germany that started the war- an unconvenient truth and for many this shift pf paradigms is impossible, as the propaganda worked perfectly the last decades.

Finnduil made a great post above.

[bushbush]

It was not germany that started the war- an unconvenient truth and for many this shift pf paradigms is impossible, as the propaganda worked perfectly the last decades.

wait what?

[intel]

wait what?

Exactly.

Neo-nazi revisionist crap.

If you go deeper into his 'thread', you can see all of his arguments prety much destroyed.

[Amagi]

Exactly.

Neo-nazi revisionist crap.

If you go deeper into his 'thread', you can see all of his arguments prety much destroyed.

I lol´d^^
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So you guys wanna skip the thread´s topic entirely? I hoped we would at least reach to something like "MK Ultra" in this thread.

[Phier]

There plans were thwarted by one movie......

[Jingles]

There plans were thwarted by one movie......

In the context of this thread, that film is pretty ing ironic.

[Wegen7 die Große]

Back on topic, Governments brainwash there citizens all the time with like what bushbush had written earlier "Education". Modern Governments teach there citizens in schools what they (the government) want to teach them and not the truth.