Unit Sizes

[IIGaneshaII]

How do i change the unit sizes? And is there a limit?

[Sir Walter]

If you go into the Options from the Main Menu, you can change the unit scale. You can change manually too, but I don't know how.

[Sir Walter]

Edit: Accidental double-post.

[Kaledon]

Just go to the export_descr_units.txt file in your stainless steel data folder. Locate a line like this one. soldier Feudal_Knights, 24, 0, 1. The number I bolded is the base unit size. This will be modified by the unit scale. Modify this as you see fit, although be warned that I don't know the hardcap offhand, assuming there is one. I don't generally play on larger settings. If you aren't trying to change the sizes of specific units and just want larger battles, one thing to point out would be this thread. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=322454
Of course, it also messes with speeds and all. But hey, thought I might as well throw it out there.

[IIGaneshaII]

thanks! I think i will mess around with the files a bit

[PerXX]

Make backups before you start editing files! Mistakes can cause CTD's.

Also, I wouldn't be increasing the unit sizes too much. While it can make for epic looking field battles, it can screw up sieges, simply because units can be too large to fit on the walls.

[IIGaneshaII]

How do i change the amount of artillery in a unit?

[Eothese]

Same place, but the second number.
NE_Ballista_Crew, 16, 2, 1
Any more than 4 causes the additional artillery not to fire, unless you mess with the unit spacing.

[tium]

Any more than 4 causes the additional artillery not to fire, unless you mess with the unit spacing.

This is wrong, I changed the files to have double artilhery units and some have 6 pieces, not altering the spacing, and serpentines, for example fired well.

Im not saing your totaly wrong, just partially.

[axnsan]

And 100 is max for soldiers, which multiplied by 2.5 is 250 on huge scale.

[Sir Walter]

And 100 is max for soldiers, which multiplied by 2.5 is 250 on huge scale.

I've never seen such a large unit... I've seen 200 in a peasant unit, but never 250. If there are 150 at most men in a unit, and 20 units at most in an army, that puts the maximum army size at 5000 men, of relatively low-quality units considering that peasants are by and large the biggest units. Mind you, there were times in history when armies numbered over 100,000, and the elite or Immortal force alone of the Achaemenid Empire's army was 10,000, even if theirs was the largest empire ever up until the time of the Umayyads, 1200 years later... the point still stands, the engine doesn't let us field armies even a tenth of the size of some real ones. Unless we have loads of reinforcements and trust to the AI...

[Saint_of_Battle]

Its easir said than done man.. If u change unit scale, mind also changing population in cities and all related mechanics

[Point Blank]

I've never seen such a large unit... I've seen 200 in a peasant unit, but never 250. If there are 150 at most men in a unit, and 20 units at most in an army, that puts the maximum army size at 5000 men, of relatively low-quality units considering that peasants are by and large the biggest units. Mind you, there were times in history when armies numbered over 100,000, and the elite or Immortal force alone of the Achaemenid Empire's army was 10,000, even if theirs was the largest empire ever up until the time of the Umayyads, 1200 years later... the point still stands, the engine doesn't let us field armies even a tenth of the size of some real ones. Unless we have loads of reinforcements and trust to the AI...

Some pike units have 250.

[axnsan]

Except that population isn't related to it

[Sir Walter]

Except that population isn't related to it

It was in RTW. I never liked them being related, because it didn't represent the rural population from which most soldiers would be drawn at all.

[IIGaneshaII]

thanks for the answers

[IIGaneshaII]

Is it possible to give factions units from another faction?

[Sir Walter]

Yes. Some units like Spear Militia and Peasants are constant across almost all factions, to save on unit slots

[IIGaneshaII]

Yes but can i give England lets say French pikemen?

[Sir Walter]

Yes but can i give England lets say French pikemen?

Yes, the game doesn't differentiate between different cultures when it comes to units.