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    Default Edoras and the Rohan AI

    Edoras is always the target of he first invasion and almost always get's taken from Rohan. The thing that really bugs me is that Rohan never tries to take it back. As their capitol city and economic center, the AI should be throwing everything they have at it, as the other factions' AIs should do with their key settlements. Is it possible to program the AI to prioritize retaking certain cities?

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    in some of my campains they take it back....so i wouldnt say they never take it back.

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    It is possible with scripts. The Call of Warhammer team has done a great job with this. Although, I have absolutely no knowledge of scripting so I unfortunately can't be of much help. I play 1.4.1 RC/RC and Rohan attempts to retake Edoras almost every time. Especially if I'm the one who takes it.

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    RC/RC fix this issu because of the Good Vs Evil Campaign AI by ZZZZhalf of the time rohan have defend edoras or take it back in less then 10 turn for me and if u play gondor just give them a hand :p. but i agree that rohan AI play like a bloody retard most of time ....they could probly be rename isengard food...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Efix View Post
    RC/RC fix this issu because of the Good Vs Evil Campaign AI by ZZZZhalf of the time rohan have defend edoras or take it back in less then 10 turn for me and if u play gondor just give them a hand :p. but i agree that rohan AI play like a bloody retard most of time ....they could probly be rename isengard food...
    Rohan may not realize that, despite the iconic scene from the movies, charging cavalry straight into a wall of Uruk-Hai pikes does not = victory.

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    Get XAI. It certainly makes cavalry behave better.
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    Won`t help in auto calculated battles.




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    Actually, in RC/RC I find that Rohan does a pretty respectable job at holding off Isengard and other invaders. If I remember correctly, PB increased the value of heavy cavalry in auto-resolve battles. I'd imagine that may have something to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordinquisitor View Post
    Won`t help in auto calculated battles.
    Yes it does. The trouble with Rohan is that the small size of Cavalry units, despite their greater stats and flexibility in the Battle Map, isn't conferred fully in the Autoresolve. Also, Charge isn't properly integrated.

    For example, an infantry unit with 10 attack and 150 men gets (say) an AR value of 1500.

    However, a Cavalry Regiment with 17 Attack and 75 Men, despite being Much more deadly on the Battlefield have only 1275, so would lose out.

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    Cavalry seems to be very poorly used unless by the human player, I barely ever see Rohan recruit cavalry anyway!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merry View Post
    Cavalry seems to be very poorly used unless by the human player, I barely ever see Rohan recruit cavalry anyway!
    This is due to recruit priority. Open the edu for Rohan units, and lower the Recruit Priority entry for the Rohan Cavalry units.

    Bear in mind though this will screw the AI's Finances even more so, particularly when you're the Evil factions.

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    Actually it does. XAI also has an improved Auto-Resolve System, and a well made campaign AI.
    "It's bizarre though. Donald Trump, an ageing, orange skinned reality TV star with a history of selling steaks and conning people, a trophy wife and one of the most fragile egos I've seen pretty much just destroyed the head of the interventionist faction in the US State apparatus, Victoria Nuland, after literally becoming President of the United states. We must live in one of the more interesting timelines."

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    Err..no offence but XAI is far better then any other AI out there. In my current Gondor playthrough with XAI Rohan has withstood a full blow invasion on Edoras ( all evil factions sent at least a stack against them, some using their best generals and in Rhun's and Isengard's case their Faction Leaders ), decimating the armies sent against them ( though they did lose a hell lot of men ).

    The situation on large is quite balanced in AI vs AI there.
    "It's bizarre though. Donald Trump, an ageing, orange skinned reality TV star with a history of selling steaks and conning people, a trophy wife and one of the most fragile egos I've seen pretty much just destroyed the head of the interventionist faction in the US State apparatus, Victoria Nuland, after literally becoming President of the United states. We must live in one of the more interesting timelines."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Costin_Razvan View Post
    Err..no offence but XAI is far better then any other AI out there.
    I'm not making an argument against XAI so none taken. I'm simply stating that RC/RC does a pretty reasonable job at balancing the factions controlled by the AI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baywatch View Post
    I'm not making an argument against XAI so none taken. I'm simply stating that RC/RC does a pretty reasonable job at balancing the factions controlled by the AI.
    In my game playing as the SE with RR/RC Endoras was under attack from the evil factions for over 50 turns before it finally fell. It was interesting seeing them fight off attack after attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Costin_Razvan View Post
    Err..no offence but XAI is far better then any other AI out there. In my current Gondor playthrough with XAI Rohan has withstood a full blow invasion on Edoras ( all evil factions sent at least a stack against them, some using their best generals and in Rhun's and Isengard's case their Faction Leaders ), decimating the armies sent against them ( though they did lose a hell lot of men ).

    The situation on large is quite balanced in AI vs AI there.
    Guess ill need to give XAI a try will see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Costin_Razvan View Post
    Err..no offence but XAI is far better then any other AI out there. In my current Gondor playthrough with XAI Rohan has withstood a full blow invasion on Edoras ( all evil factions sent at least a stack against them, some using their best generals and in Rhun's and Isengard's case their Faction Leaders ), decimating the armies sent against them ( though they did lose a hell lot of men ).

    The situation on large is quite balanced in AI vs AI there.
    So because Rohan defended against an overwhelming invasion the AI is somehow better?

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    it usually takes about 50 turns in my campaigns until rohan disappears after theyve lost edoras

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    What's an XAI?

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