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    Excellent!

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    Sweet +rep
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    Breaking and gluing back together and trying to pass off as never being broken in the first place.
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    Epic !! +rep

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    Stunning!

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    Great, but I try to download the (DLV Teutonic) game, but for the third time--it stops half way. Any idea?
    Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga
    I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sivilombudsmannen View Post
    Great, but I try to download the (DLV Teutonic) game, but for the third time--it stops half way. Any idea?
    Does it stops always in the same % of download? If yes, say me, if not, try to download again

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDKsoldier View Post
    Does it stops always in the same % of download? If yes, say me, if not, try to download again
    Mwha ha ha ha Got it in the goal!

    As I said, I tried 3 times and they wrapped it up like the download was finished around 50%. But, then I tried going via the orginal page from Der Drakken and it worked all the way. Maybe I did nothing diffrent, but the gods are with me on this one.
    Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga
    I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
    - The pranks played on the knight Jean de Joinville, 1249, 7th crusade.













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    very nice
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    Great Preview

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    Astonishing work.

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    I think there should be less metal on the crossbows and more variation.

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    Default Re: B:TW Preview: Balts Rebels units

    We will have multiple types of crossbows, depending on the era. (At least 3 are scheduled)

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    They just seem too uniform and advanced technically for these Balts. No offense just saying the Balts clearly look less 'technical' in the screens.

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    But they are raiders and wasting teutonic settlements. Beeing a typical weapon for citizen (schützengilden). this raider can steal this weapons from dead opponents.
    seems logical for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armatus View Post
    They just seem too uniform and advanced technically for these Balts. No offense just saying the Balts clearly look less 'technical' in the screens.
    Actually that makes sense. The Balts mainly got their crossbows from western european merchants.

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    The balts the polish and the Teutonic order looked very similar on the battlefield (at least the common units, knights had their distinct dressing). So I do not see any problems with the fact that they are as far in military thechnology as the surrounding factions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EarendilElenthol View Post
    The balts the polish and the Teutonic order looked very similar on the battlefield (at least the common units, knights had their distinct dressing). So I do not see any problems with the fact that they are as far in military thechnology as the surrounding factions.
    First of all I would like to ask you to use the first letter a big one - 'Polish', Balts people would probably wish the same for their own name

    Secondly you are wrong with your statement. Poles, Teutons and especially Balts did not look the same in middle ages. Some details below:
    1. In XIII and XIVc most of the Teutonic army consisted of Baltic auxilaries. Those where the freemen that were given a small fief in exchange for military service. They fought as light-medium cavalry and distingushed with their armory from western knights (they used some typical Balt warfare, like pekilhube, sulica, small pavise). Another important part of Teutonic army was Teutonic brothers and servants. They used the armoury mostly typical for western culture and therefore to some extent similar to Polish one, but where 'painted' into a specific Teutonic patern. Also we know that Teutonic brothers often used the Baltic warfare like small pavise or sulica. So actually the only part of medieval Teutonic army that was similar to Poles were... the Polish vassals of Teutons from Chełminska Land and Eastern Pomerania, and eventually Teutonic ally forces from western Pomerania and HRE.
    2. Balts warfare. I have written a bit about those from Prussia above. If it comes to Lithuanians, they in the contrary adopted mostly Eastern European armoury. The reason was simple - since about half XIIIc Lithuanians started the conquest of the Russ Lands, and those Lands were more developed than Lithuanian itself. Many Lithuanian nobles occupied 'officies' in incorporated Rus Lands and they found the Eastern European warfare very suitable. Such warfare was very different from western one, I won't list here the differences as I think they are pretty obvious. Since the end of XIV when Lithuania was allied by a union with Poland and officialy incorporated into the Polish Kingdom (this fact is probably uknown for most of you, practically Lithuanians hold a considerable authonomy and even rebelled often - like Witold <grand duke of Lithuania> did against his brother - Jagiełło<king of Poland>) some of Lithuanian noble families were adopted by Polish noble families and this is how Lithuanians 'borrowed' some Polish noble coas. Also Polish Nobles sometimes sent to its Lithuanians friends a plate armoury which was always a nice gift for Lithuanians, but still the percentage of westernization of Lithuanian army was very little, their weaponry was mostly a mix of the Baltic and Russ style.
    Last edited by Silesian_Noble; April 24, 2010 at 09:07 AM.

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    Nice work!

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    what cross bows are those by the way?

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    WONDERFULL

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