God tells man how to find little girl lost in swamp

[Count of Montesano]

There's an interesting case going on in Florida right now where a man claiming to have received visions from God found a girl lost in an alligator-infested swamp. Fifth Grader Nadia Smith has Asperger's Syndrome and apparently wandered off. For four days rescuers were unable to find her, but one of the men who goes to Nadia's church claims that he received a vision from God that allowed him to find her quickly.

TAMPA, Fla. — A missing 11-year-old central Florida girl with an autism-related disorder was found alive Tuesday by a member of her family's church four days after she disappeared into an alligator-infested swamp a half-mile from her home.

Fifth-grader Nadia Bloom was taken to a hospital where she was evaluated and treated for dehydration and insect bites, said Winter Springs Police Chief Kevin Brunelle.

"If I never believed in miracles, I sure do now," Brunelle said during an afternoon news conference.

It took nearly two hours for rescuers to carry Nadia out of the thick brush and swamp. James King, who goes to church with Nadia's family and was helping in the search, found her in a dry patch in the middle of the swamp and called authorities. He started walking at daylight and found her several hours later, he said.

"Hey, I've got her," King said, in the 911 call. "I've got Nadia."

King said the girl had bug bites yet "no major injuries, just exposure."

King added: "The Lord told me where to find her."

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...ida-swamp.html

So, this is a pretty amazing story if it's true. Of course, there's always the possibility that James King planned the whole thing.

[hellheaven1987]

May be he just hide the girl in swamp then pretend some vision give him enlightment... Not to mention how does he know the vision is came from God but not Satan??

It is getting even more suspicious when the girl is not dehydrated.

[Squiggle]

May be he just hide the girl in swamp then pretend some vision give him enlightment... Not to mention how does he know the vision is came from God but not Satan??

It is getting even more suspicious when the girl is not dehydrated.

Because Satan wants good Christian men to find an innocent girl and give God credit. What an evil, convoluted web Satan weaves, amirite?

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Either it is genuinely from God, or the man is a liar. Honestly, if he was going to lie it would probably be more along the lines of "im an expert trapper, god im so smart, figured out where she was in no time flat". This just takes his own credit away. I doubt its a lie, but I cant know.

If god is responsible for her being found, what if she wasn't found, would that be god's fault too? Or is double think still a fundamental feature of all modern religions?

The only way its God's fault is if theres no free will. There is free will however, but there is also Divine intervention. Leaving her to die isnt intervention, its just natural. So again, the only way its "gods fault" is if we lack a free will, and it wasnt the girls fault for being lost, or anyones fault, and she was doomed to die from the very spark of creation itself in that swamp.

[gambit]

Either it is genuinely from God, or the man is a liar. Honestly, if he was going to lie it would probably be more along the lines of "im an expert trapper, god im so smart, figured out where she was in no time flat". This just takes his own credit away. I doubt its a lie, but I cant know.

nah, if he was gonna lie he would say something along the lines of "GOD SHOWED ME THE WAY" and then never explain how god showed him the way, but keep pressing that as the truth.

[Squiggle]

nah, if he was gonna lie he would say something along the lines of "GOD SHOWED ME THE WAY" and then never explain how god showed him the way, but keep pressing that as the truth.

Haven't seen a single news article where he just screams "god showed me" and given no information when pressed as to how. The only explanation hes given was that God told him to go through water, he hesitated, and God reaffirmed that it was the proper thing to do. Basically, as far as I can discern, he heard voices. Either way, pretty sure a liar would, again, come up with a better story than looking flustered and beg everyone accept that it was God. I know id come up with a detailed vision, or some kind of precipitating event. It doesn't sound like a lie to me, at most it sounds like he was just following his instincts and took his instincts to be God. Even then, incredible- miraculous- find.

[Arch-hereticK]

The only way its God's fault is if theres no free will. There is free will however, but there is also Divine intervention. Leaving her to die isnt intervention, its just natural. So again, the only way its "gods fault" is if we lack a free will, and it wasnt the girls fault for being lost, or anyones fault, and she was doomed to die from the very spark of creation itself in that swamp.

If god could have saved her and chose not to, he is malevolent.

[Squiggle]

If god could have saved her and chose not to, he is malevolent.

Unless he has a greater moral purpose in letting her die, that whole poem crap is absolutely terrible. Dont quote it, its on par with the flying spaghetti monster. It makes you look bad.

[Arch-hereticK]

Unless he has a greater moral purpose in letting her die.

If his "moral" purpose includes bone-cancer in children and earth-quakes during school time it seems that the price is too high for whatever convoluted plan he may have.

[hellheaven1987]

Because Satan wants good Christian men to find an innocent girl and give God credit. What an evil, convoluted web Satan weaves, amirite?

?? Obviously it is a very convient way to control men by pretending as God - it is such an easy trick that even three years old would use. May be the next vision would be slaughtered whole town because they were all infidels, who knows??

[Miracles]

?? Obviously it is a very convient way to control men by pretending as God - it is such an easy trick that even three years old would use. May be the next vision would be slaughtered whole town because they were all infidels, who knows??

Stop being paranoid . If you don't know neither God or satan just pretend neither exists. If you believe in both since you can't believe in just either one then Go seek understanding.

[Count of Montesano]

Agreed - I'm a believer who's also highly skeptical of the story. That being said, there's a part of me who wants it to be true.

[Trax]

So, this is a pretty amazing story if it's true. Of course, there's always the possibility that James King planned the whole thing.

Or the even more simple reason, things just happen without major reasons, no need to involve God or fraud.
Finding that girl was probably much more likely than winning a lottery anyway.

[Mythos]

If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

Hey beard guy up there, how about you tell a scientist how to create cold fusion? Or a way to eliminate pollution? Or poverty? Or famine? Or even stopping those earthquakes and tsunamis that kill hundreds of thousands of people? How about that?

[hellheaven1987]

If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

Hey beard guy up there, how about you tell a scientist how to create cold fusion? Or a way to eliminate pollution? Or poverty? Or famine? Or even stopping those earthquakes and tsunamis that kill hundreds of thousands of people? How about that?

Actually, you bring out a question why God did not just guide the girl walk out the swamp by herself - must be much more effective than asking some stranger to do its dirty work.

[Poach]

It's good that she was found, he just got lucky.

Had he not found her, we'd never have heard anything of it. Since he did, it's now God that did it.

I'm an atheist, so obviously I don't believe in God or miracles, but even the faithful should be able to see the common sense in these "miracles" that pop up every so often.

[Elfdude]

I'm not really sure how a little girl lives for four days in the middle of a swamp considering adults find it difficult to live for much more than 2 without water. I'm wondering if it was this guy in the first place to abducted her or if he knew someone who had or if he had simply stumbled upon her.

I'm curious about the medical examination, and if they checked her for sexual abuse.

[gambit]

Considering he doesn't describe his vision at all, just keeps saying "oh all glory to god" I'm skeptical.

This, however, tips me off into the range

During the 911 call, King asked Nadia if he could take her photo, "so you can show how God protected you."
"Sure!" Nadia replied.

I'm no believer, but if anyone actually had miraculous visions they wouldn't say something as retarded as this, this is a call for attention.

[gambit]

Also who the hell lets their 11 year old autistic kid just wander around outside in alligator filled swamps?

[Elfdude]

Asperger's Syndrome can be a pretty functional form of autism. All it really implies is that the child has difficulties perceiving how others perceive them and thus shows little empathy, as well as nonverbal communication skills (emotions/body language). They normally don't put themselves in danger and they usually will tell the truth almost compulsively.

[Oddsworm]

A missing persons search party finds the missing person.

Hallelujah its a miracle.