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    The Battle of Karánsebes (Romanian: Caransebeş,Turkish: Şebeş Savaşı) was an early episode in the Austro-Turkish War of 1787-1791. Different portions of an Austrian army, which was scouting for forces of the Ottoman Empire, fired on each other by mistake, in a self-inflicted disaster. The battle took place on the evening of 17 September 1788. Ottomans were victorious and captured the city.The army of Austria, approximately 100,000 strong, was setting up camp around the town of Karánsebes (now Caransebeş, in modern Romania). The army's vanguard, a contingent of hussars, crossed the Timiş River nearby to scout for the presence of the Ottoman Turks. There was no sign of the Ottoman army, but the hussars did run into a group of Gypsies, who offered to sell schnapps to the war-weary soldiers. The cavalrymen bought the schnapps and started to drink.

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    lurk moar I have seen this 5 times here now

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    My favorite story of misadventure in the Balkans.
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    YES! Thank you! I've been trying to think of this battle for forever. Always useful in discussion of most embarrassing military moments.
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    It's a nice fabrication.
    See here and here
    "Instead of all the stupidness with which the daily press is filled, why do you not send commissioners to visit the districts from which we have expelled the enemy and make them collect the details of the crimes that have been committed there? Nothing more powerful could be found to stir the minds than a recital of the details. What we need at this moment is real and serious things, not wit in prose and verse. My hair stands on end when I hear of the crimes committed by the enemy, and the police have not even thought of obtaining a single account of these happenings…A picture drawn in larger strokes will not convince the people. With ink and paper you can draw any pictures you like. Only by telling the facts simply and with detail can we convince them."
    -Napoleon

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    I know that story good to brought that .

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    och

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    I must confess, that it was probably me who first introduced this curious story to TWC, many winters ago, after reading this book.
    However that book seems to be pretty much the only source mentioning that "battle".
    In the best case the whole story is grossly exaggerated and in the worst case complete bullcrap.

    Simply one of those stories that are too good to be true.

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    It's still my favorite story of military misadventure in the Balkans , truth or not.
    FREE THE NIPPLE!!!

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    Trax is right, the sources are scanty at best.
    "Romans not only easily conquered those who fought by cutting, but mocked them too. For the cut, even delivered with force, frequently does not kill, when the vital parts are protected by equipment and bone. On the contrary, a point brought to bear is fatal at two inches; for it is necessary that whatever vital parts it penetrates, it is immersed. Next, when a cut is delivered, the right arm and flank are exposed. However, the point is delivered with the cover of the body and wounds the enemy before he sees it."

    - Flavius Vegetius Renatus (in Epitoma Rei Militari, ca. 390)

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    It has been debated and posted several times. Its one of those things (along with debates about how cool romans were) which makes twc infintely boring...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odovacar View Post
    It has been debated and posted several times. Its one of those things (along with debates about how cool romans were) which makes twc infintely boring...
    Not to mention Romania vs Hungary. (I would've posted some elaborate witticism but it's really not needed)

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    The factuality of this battle is in serious dispute, it's makes for a good story, but one shouldn't pass it off as a fact.

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    lol, if I had a penny for every time I saw a thread about this on strategy gaming forums...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonius View Post
    lol, if I had a penny for every time I saw a thread about this on strategy gaming forums...
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    the noob OP stumbled on this and thought we haven't heard of it before or something? This is one of those rare cases where you shouldn't trust Wikipedia.

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