EMPIRE TOTAL FACTIONS...... (Last updated 17/08/2011)

**MoBo** · January 05, 2021, 05:43 AM

can ETF work with Empire Realism ??

**Leonardo** · January 06, 2021, 06:06 AM

Originally Posted by MoBo

can ETF work with Empire Realism ??

I haven't played Empire Realism before, so I don't know.

You need to try and see if that works or not, but remember if you're using DME then you must change the setting "DME - Ready" to "DME - Vanilla" in the DME launcher before launching ETF otherwise ETF won't work.

**Gaius97** · January 18, 2021, 09:43 PM

Hi, I have tried looking for the answer elsewhere and on the many pages on the forums before I decided to ask it here, but does this mod allow for Greece to be played? I thought since it was an emergent faction it would be, but I cannot seem to find it in the options or in the late game setting.

**Leonardo** · January 21, 2021, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by Gaius97

Hi, I have tried looking for the answer elsewhere and on the many pages on the forums before I decided to ask it here, but does this mod allow for Greece to be played? I thought since it was an emergent faction it would be, but I cannot seem to find it in the options or in the late game setting.

You cannot play Greece as an emergement in ETF, because HusserlTW created a separate Greece mod.

https://www.twcenter.net/forums/show...ed-30-01-2012)

**MoBo** · January 23, 2021, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Leonardo

I haven't played Empire Realism before, so I don't know.

You need to try and see if that works or not, but remember if you're using DME then you must change the setting "DME - Ready" to "DME - Vanilla" in the DME launcher before launching ETF otherwise ETF won't work.

so you can run ETF with Darthmod if so how do you do that and what settings to change

**Leonardo** · January 24, 2021, 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by MoBo

so you can run ETF with Darthmod if so how do you do that and what settings to change

To my knowledge no, you can't run ETF with DME, because if I am not mistaken DME requires the DME - Ready setting to be active which makes ETF incompatible with DME.

However, having the DME - Vanilla setting active in the DME launcher makes it possible to launch ETF and start a new campaign or continue your game where you left it.

**Leonardo** · January 24, 2021, 05:12 AM

FYI - https://www.twcenter.net/forums/show...1#post15987593

**Leonardo** · January 27, 2021, 01:24 PM

Just in case the Filefactory link aren't working anymore, I re-uploaded ETF today.

https://www.afkmods.com/index.php?/t...l-factions-21/

**HawkDreams** · February 06, 2021, 01:32 AM

Here is a new one and I dont know why. Took me two days to find a solution...

Windows 10
Running
AUM
Napoleon Effects
ETF 2.1

Suddenly stopped loading only getting to a black screen with a blue circle, sound pop, CTD.

Running the .mdmp file Access Violation AUM
removed AUM
Same as above
Running the .mdmp now file access violation no named file

Uninstalled Empire, cleaned all folders, reinstalled, loaded ETF 2.1, ran the first time, the second time, same as above.

Working solution?
Put my AUM (including support) back in place converted to movie from mod pack
Put back napoleon effects mod (already movie format)
Ran ETF launcher, attempted to launch, allowed to crash, leave launcher open so files remain in place I selected, go to steam, launch from steam and works with all mods loaded with early campaign (what I had crashed loading).

Tested with all launch variations and works the same but still crashes loading up the copied files and trying to load through launcher. Using main game exe though steam or directly loads the crashed selection as long as the ETF launcher remains open.

Riddle me this one! LOL I am NOT a noob. Can take the game apart and put it back together but cannot for the life of me find the reason for this!

**Leonardo** · February 06, 2021, 02:45 AM

What was your solution?

Anyway, always do this to install ETF and get it working.

1. Launch Steam Client and make sure ETW is installed in the Steam folder and NOT outside of the Steam folder, otherwise ETF won't work
2. Run ETF 2.1.exe and follow the instructions (the Windows instructions about reinstalling the mod twice can be ignored)
3. Launch ETW without mods just to ensure the game is working, otherwise verify game cache in Steam
4. Exit ETW and launch ETF

Doing that should work, if not then let us know about it.

**HawkDreams** · February 06, 2021, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by Leonardo

What was your solution?

Anyway, always do this to install ETF and get it working.

1. Launch Steam Client and make sure ETW is installed in the Steam folder and NOT outside of the Steam folder, otherwise ETF won't work
2. Run ETF 2.1.exe and follow the instructions (the Windows instructions about reinstalling the mod twice can be ignored)
3. Launch ETW without mods just to ensure the game is working, otherwise verify game cache in Steam
4. Exit ETW and launch ETF

Doing that should work, if not then let us know about it.

Working solution
Put my AUM (including support) back in place converted to movie from mod pack
Put back napoleon effects mod (already movie format)
Ran ETF launcher, attempted to launch, allowed to crash, leave launcher open so files remain in place I selected, go to steam, launch from steam and works with early campaign (what I had crashed loading). (also works with all mods loaded except the startpos list)

I have no idea why the sudden change. I will keep working on it as I have time.

My Steam install path is G (games) yada yada yada normal path. ETW is installed to the Steamapps/common/empire folder and so is ETF.

By the way, as I see you give references of "according to" to install ETF 2.1 in windows 10, it must have compatibility set to Windows 7 or before.

OH, and I made an error above in my statement which I corrected in this post, the "fix" I list works for everything EXCEPT the startpos link on the launcher

As I said, when and if I have time, I will keep working on this to figure out what has changed. Right now I am guessing it is related to a windows update or another game I have installed.

**Leonardo** · February 06, 2021, 02:40 PM

EXCEPT the startpos link on the launcher

What you're trying to do with ETF doesn't work, because ETF is a mod foldered mod. Which means that every vanilla startpos.esf will be disabled by using modded startpos.esf files every time you launch the ETF launcher.

**HawkDreams** · February 06, 2021, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Leonardo

What you're trying to do with ETF doesn't work, because ETF is a mod foldered mod. Which means that every vanilla startpos.esf will be disabled by using modded startpos.esf files every time you launch the ETF launcher.

Not meaning any offense here, but do you actually know anything about the mechanics of Empire Total Factions mod?

It is not just one mod, but more than a dozen different mods wrapped up into one launcher. Yes, it is foldered and separated into its distinctive parts. When you click one of the script launch points on the launcher it copies the vanilla files to a backup folder, replaces the vanilla files with the files you request, and launches the game using the chosen modded files. After completing playing, after shutting down the game, you then shut down the launcher which in its shutdown process replaces the vanilla files back where they belong so launching the game launches vanilla. It is why there is a warning about closing the launcher before shutting down the game.

The startpos link on the launcher is supposed to work and to allow you to choose a startpos mod to play which it copies into place to launch the selected startpos mod.

Thing is, I found a problem, brought the problem and the work around to the mod's forum to both notify and see if the modder knew anything about what is going on currently. So may I ask? Where is the original modder and the support people for this mod who knows how it works?

**Leonardo** · February 06, 2021, 07:02 PM