Peter Heather

**Magister Militum Flavius Aetius** · April 16, 2010, 11:03 AM

here's a link to buy his book.
http://www.amazon.com/Fall-Roman-Emp.../dp/0195325419

**Constantius** · April 16, 2010, 12:23 PM

Please tell me you have finally bought this excellent book !!! I have been advising you to get as long as I'v known you .F aetius also theres recomendations on that page 1 from Goldsworthy is good too. Gives a slightly different argument

**Magister Militum Flavius Aetius** · April 16, 2010, 03:30 PM

I'm looking for it, and I have a book for Adrian Goldsworthy, In fact, I just found Heather's book on Amazon, but I'm gonna check my local bookstores first, If I can't find it there I will buy it online.

**Constantius** · April 16, 2010, 03:36 PM

I am a big Peter Heather fan if thats the right way to desribe it ? Anyway I think I said it elsewhere too , but his most recent book is Par Excellence I recomend it http://www.amazon.co.uk/Empires-Barb.../dp/0333989759
The Adrian Goldsworthy book starts the narative in the third century, he sees the collaspse starting there. Read them you'll see

**Magister Militum Flavius Aetius** · April 16, 2010, 03:45 PM

I've read about heathers point of view on the collapse. I agree with them completely.
Thanks for the link. +rep!

**Antiochos VII Sidetes** · April 16, 2010, 09:50 PM

Peter Heather's book is fantastic. I read it back several years ago and I recall that it really sparked my interest in Late Antiquity; his account of the Roman presence gradually evolving and decaying in Noricum is very insightful.

**Joar** · April 17, 2010, 07:43 AM

I must confess that I prefer Adrian G solely based on the fact that I find him more physically attractive than Peter Heather. Adrian has that flamboyant and nonchalant charm of a seasoned gentleman, while Peter Heather's nerdish looks reveals the fact that he's probably a virgin.

If there was a war going on - who would you follow to certain death? A 50 year old-virgin or a handsome and strong man with a full head of hair? Yes, that's what I thought.

**juvenus** · April 18, 2010, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by Joar

I must confess that I prefer Adrian G solely based on the fact that I find him more physically attractive than Peter Heather. Adrian has that flamboyant and nonchalant charm of a seasoned gentleman, while Peter Heather's nerdish looks reveals the fact that he's probably a virgin.

If there was a war going on - who would you follow to certain death? A 50 year old-virgin or a handsome and strong man with a full head of hair? Yes, that's what I thought.

**Constantius** · April 17, 2010, 07:51 AM

YOU need help my friend

**PSEUDO ROMANUS** · April 17, 2010, 08:22 AM

**Antiochos VII Sidetes** · April 17, 2010, 08:47 AM

Hahahahaha...well, war does things to men. You never know...maybe he'd become a crazy sexfiend...

**SeniorBatavianHorse** · April 17, 2010, 02:59 PM

Joar scares me . . .

**Magister Militum Flavius Aetius** · April 17, 2010, 03:07 PM

Last time I checked there were women in the military.
Also, that is true, Alexander the great was just a famous Homosexual. Why do you think their called the "companion" cavalry. Back on topic though.
I will be getting heather's book wednesday. It's being ordered from the primary warehouse or something.
BTW last time I checked Heather was MARRIED.

**Joar** · April 18, 2010, 04:12 AM

Originally Posted by Magistri Militum FlaviusAetius

BTW last time I checked Heather was MARRIED.

Yes, I know, I also believe he's got a couple of kids - but that doesn't prove anything!

**Magister Militum Flavius Aetius** · April 17, 2010, 03:41 PM

And joar, I know a few pshychiatrists that can "help you"

**Magister Militum Flavius Aetius** · April 21, 2010, 03:53 PM

Unfortunately, Books-A-Million's supplier doesn't have the book, so they had to order it from the eastern coast supplier, so I wont have the book until tuesday.