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    Time and consciousness

    Here’s another quick vague one to discuss, maybe it will take us a tad nearer to understanding the mind if nothing else…

    I woke up this morning at 7:33, then I was dreaming/imagining some stuff that seamed to last the length of a short film, I then woke up again at 7:37 and only 4 minutes had passed. Equally, sometimes I go to sleep and wake up 7 hours later and it seams like only a minute has passed.

    On another level, when I drive on a different journey to usual taking new roads I havent been down, then the journey seams to take a long time. Then when I have driven that same journey a myriad of times, it seams to go much more quickly.

    It would seam that time for us is linked to our conscious states, in the second example it is relevant to how much new experience is involved, the more new stuff we have to take in the greater our attention and hence time goes slower. This is partly true of the first example, in that the less we experience I.e. in deep sleep, the quicker time goes. It is not true though when our experience is imaginary like in a dream, although it can conversely be so that dreaming can wind away the hours as if in the blink of an eye. A dream is a set of experiences in the consciousness just as much as images from the world are, especially considering that what we actually see is the same thing in both instances, except that the world is dreamt with relation to real world physical input.

    So time it would seam, can slip by slowly or quickly according to some conscious perimeters, or maybe the consciousness simply doesn’t go by the normal rules of time, instead existing in its own timeframes relative to its state. Perhaps when time is not relative [other things are not effecting it physically] it can be anything the consciousness chooses it to be?

    Thoughts gentlemen
    Formerly quetzalcoatl. Proud leader of STW3 and member of the RTR, FATW and QNS teams.

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    There is an objective time state, independent of your consciousness. That is why you know how much time has passed during a long dream, because you can look on the clock and see that only 4 minutes had passed. Similarly even when time contracts or expands due to relativity, there are well known and universal rules that regulate it. There is nothing subjective or optional about it.


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    There is an objective time state, independent of your consciousness. That is why you know how much time has passed during a long dream, because you can look on the clock and see that only 4 minutes had passed. Similarly even when time contracts or expands due to relativity, there are well known and universal rules that regulate it. There is nothing subjective or optional about it.
    Surely the subjectivity is at least in our experiencing of it? More the point though, time has objective standards according to physical states, yet I wouldn’t think of consciousness as such a state? Hence when there is a lack of relative physical connectivity, consciousness operates in its own time? After all a basis of relativity is that all things work within their own timeframe, so consciousness would naturally work within its, except where other factors are involved.

    Other consciousnesses may work to a totally different time perspective, I would speculate that souls and gods, deities etc, would have their own time, and that infinite consciousness would be tiemless.

    equally there may be other kinds of objective timestates, e.g. where infinity is considered as an object.
    Formerly quetzalcoatl. Proud leader of STW3 and member of the RTR, FATW and QNS teams.

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