changing generals guard

[damnmap]

Was wondering how easy it would be to give Dale a mounted guard instead of the archers? Let Bard and perhaps faction heir keep the archers but everyone else gets cavalry.

Another issue has always been the lack of cavalry for dwarves... perhaps they could have a mounted generals guard called something like 'allied cavalrymen' where the general is still a dwarf on his mount with the rest made up of humans from eriador or dale.

Think the las tthread got moved or something cannot find it...

[glassakias]

the dwarves do have allied cavalry. it is called dale cavalry and its available as mercenaries in most dale regions

[damnmap]

True but those are crappy I think they deserve something decent. The dwarves on the western side have no cavalry and get destroyed by skirmishers and archers which are plentiful in all rebel settlements.

On the plus side it is a good lore explanation as to why they stayed in their fortresses.

[Vifarc]

The dwarves on the western side have no cavalry and get destroyed by skirmishers and archers which are plentiful in all rebel settlements.

What!? Lol crappy dwarves. I can't believe you. You just play them badly.

On the plus side it is a good lore explanation as to why they stayed in their fortresses.

Crap again. Dwarves like being in the mountains. That's all. And sometimes they journey to see their cousins.

A dwarf general on his war poney, lol.

[Seleukos_I.]

Was wondering how easy it would be to give Dale a mounted guard instead of the archers? Let Bard and perhaps faction heir keep the archers but everyone else gets cavalry.

Got to edu, search for Dale and then go to the Bardian Archers Bodyguard. Remove the entry general_unit from their attributes and add it to the unit you want it to have e.g. Earls.
It should look like this in the end:

type             Earls
dictionary       Earls     ; Earls
category         cavalry
class            heavy
voice_type       Heavy
banner faction   main_cavalry
banner holy      crusade
soldier          earls, 30, 0, 1
officer          dale_captain_early_flag
mount            barded horse2
mount_effect     elephant -4, camel -4
attributes       sea_faring, hide_forest, can_withdraw, can_formed_charge, general_unit
formation        2, 4.4, 3, 6, 3, square
stat_health      1, 3
stat_pri         9, 6, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 25, 1
stat_pri_attr    no
stat_sec         0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr    no
stat_pri_armour  10, 3, 5, metal
stat_sec_armour  0, 0, flesh
stat_heat        8
stat_ground      -1, -1, -3, -2
stat_mental      15, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        1, 980, 350, 100, 100, 980, 4, 170
armour_ug_levels 4
armour_ug_models earls
ownership        scotland
era 0            scotland
era 1            scotland
era 2            scotland
recruit_priority_offset    20

Now all you new generals will start off with Earls as their bodyguard. However, if you recruit Earls now you will get a recruited general IIRC

[damnmap]

easier than expected, is it possible to allow bard to keep his archers?

[Seleukos_I.]

easier than expected, is it possible to allow bard to keep his archers?

Yes. If you want to change the bodyguards of the generals you have available at the start of the campaign, you'd have to edit descr_strat.

[el Cid]

It is possible to have earls as bodyguards, just copy the whole earls section and add general_unit, now you can still recruit them normally as well as having them as bodyguards.

Though this requires a bit more editing.

[damnmap]

where is the edu file

[HolyDevil]

export_descr_unit its in Third Age/data ... thats where mine is at least ..



400th post!

[damnmap]

Okay got it working but I have two problems:

It only works if I remove the bardian archers from Bard

Every family member has 78 earls which seems overpowered. What do I do to make it balanced like the other 'mounted general' factions i.e. 25-30 for minor family members, 40+ for heir and 50+ for leader?

[Vaz]

export_descr_data its in Third Age/data ... thats where mine is at least ..



400th post!

export_descr_unit.

At the top of the file there's a guide to how to edit the basics of the edu.

[HolyDevil]

export_descr_unit.

At the top of the file there's a guide to how to edit the basics of the edu.

yeh i was on my mind in the data folder and wrote data instead of unit

[el Cid]

You should make a new edu entry and alter the number of men in the unit.

[Ozzmosis]

So if you add general_unit in the edu to a unit, without taking it off the original bodyguard, will all new generals have the new bodyguard, will it be mixed, or will nothing happen? If changed the default bodyguard to a new one, would I need to start a new campaign?

[Seleukos_I.]

So if you add general_unit in the edu to a unit, without taking it off the original bodyguard, will all new generals have the new bodyguard, will it be mixed, or will nothing happen? If changed the default bodyguard to a new one, would I need to start a new campaign?

The unit which comes first in the edu will be the general unit. In this case it would be Bardian Marksmen.
Afaik you don't have to start a new game. The old generals will keep their bodyguard, the ones that "come to age" after you changed the edu will have the new one.

[Ozzmosis]

Hmm, I added general_unit to Mirkwood rangers in the edu, and then whenever I recruited them, I got generals! Is there any way to make it so that Certain starting generals (like legolas) have them as a bodyguard, but then they can be recruited as a normal unit?

[Vaz]

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To have Legolas have the Mirkwood Rangers as a Bodyguard, open data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.txt (make a copy APU), search for the Legolas Entry, and find the first unit in his army. Replace this with the name for Mirkwood Sentinels. Save (make sure that there is no read only box checked in right click+properties), and play the game. This means that the game will load Legolas to have BG's as Mirkwood Sents, but all Adoptions and Coming of Age will result in Sindar Archers.

Recruiting Mirkwood Sents results in no new general.

If you want all scripted generals to have Mirkwood Archers, search Campaign_script.txt (remove read only and backup), and do the same for all such generals (search "Sindar" and then see if it applies to a General), and also do that for the other Sylvan's in descr_strat.

[Ozzmosis]

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Sorry I didn't even mean to post a pic! I have no idea how that got there! anyway...
Thanks for the advice. I shall try that!