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    I am at approximately 540 AUC in my campaign, and not playing historically mind you. I am currently thrashing the Gauls, cuz I hate them. I started to think though, when would be a good time to start the Marian Reforms. Approximately what date should I aim for, if in this case I want to be a bit more historical.

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    It all depends on your cities levels , you must upgrade the city of Patavium or Mediolanum or Tarentum to a huge city by building an imperial palce there ,
    Im assuming you have these three cities seeming as you are ''thrashing the Gauls''
    Again , Its up to yourself , some players rush to Byzantium at the start of a campaign to trigger the reforms , so its your choice

    But 540 AUC is a late enough date to trigger them or you could just stick with VE legions if you want
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    your closer to the truth than you know, i once upped the bonusses on a number of buildings, and during my conquest those building trees were more advanced than others.

    now to the OP, they are probably more advanced because they have more money to spend (the AI gets massive bonusses, and less cities) by the way, try playing H/VH, because in Campaign VH difficulty with RS, you get massive money bonusses and happines bonuses... which makes the game far too easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebull0425 View Post
    I am at approximately 540 AUC in my campaign, and not playing historically mind you. I am currently thrashing the Gauls, cuz I hate them.
    Don't we all.

    I started to think though, when would be a good time to start the Marian Reforms.
    A good time is any time, but historically another hundred and fifty years.
    "The only question that remained was whether the founders knew the final result of their creation, or if they themselves where the victims of a misunderstanding.
    In the latter case it was the duty of any thinking human, to press himself into the front of this depraved movement, to perhaps still prevent the extreme, in the former case the founders of this peoples disease must have been true devils; for only in the brain of a monster - not of a human - could the plan for an organisation take meaningfull form, whose purpose must lead toward the end result of a collapse of human culture and thus to the desolation of the world.
    In this case only battle remained as a means of final delivery, battle with any weapons that the human mind, intellect and will are able to comprehend, regardless, of whom fate would gift with it's blessing."

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    muahahha. i used the force diplomacy to force the surrounding nations to send me very high tributes... so i was able to build fastly my first early legions.. nad marian reforms came over 400 or so. damn gauls, they made me rich and then they gave me salves for three generations of servants.

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    The Gauls are almost broken, 3 settlements left, only 1 that I want for now. Have made no head way against the Macedonians, although that is coming. Stupid Iberians declared war on me, so I will have to thrash them now. They will all fall to my might.

    As for the reforms, I think I will wait a bit more.

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    Bull i know just what you mean gauls controlled all modernday britain france and germany taken france and most of germanies rebelled and then i attacked th ptolmics at carthage but i can beat macedon they hav 21 full stacks at apolnia and im jus tbuilding stacks of soliders parking tem at the bridge near patavium[the one near segesta] and auto resolving simply becuz im so bored of fighting them. i once lanced 4 simltaneous naval invasions took appolnia[this was the one that started the stacks] sparta athens and kydonia[rebel held but vital for reinforcments. All these attacks failed and macedon got angry and went on the rampage the second wave of in vasions same as before except not appolnia or kydonia and 2 full stacks at both landing places.
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    Dunno like, I've forgiven the Gauls all their previous :wub:-ness because of the Germans who still seem to be pouring troops into everywhere (one VE Legion against 9000 men, and I won killing 8897 of the enemy. I was actually exhausted after). And the Gauls only hold SW England now.
    When you get right down to it, there's only birth, copulation and death. Everything else is pure bloody guesswork!

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    How much soldiers the most can be in battle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FC Barcelona Fan View Post
    How much soldiers the most can be in battle?
    No idea, shipmate, but it's Gods honest truth.

    I had four Legions around the settlement directly south to Alesia (can't remember what it's name is) and ended up dispatching one of the VE Legions to deal with the Germans who were massing for an attack. They outnumbered me easily, especially when all their reinforcing armies came onto the field. I was proud of my lads though, not a single unit routed while the destruction of the enemy was total and certainly stalled any advance (in the same turn, to the east I had a major battle and pushed up past Aventicum to besiege that destroying three stacks with another VE Legion)
    When you get right down to it, there's only birth, copulation and death. Everything else is pure bloody guesswork!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FC Barcelona Fan View Post
    How much soldiers the most can be in battle?
    There is a historical test battle for vanilla that has approximately 65,000 soldiers. it is here: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...do=file&id=602

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    Default Re: Reforms

    I reckon somewhere around 30000-35000 in custom battles if all 8 player slots are used? Also depends on what troops you use... and if you are playing with huge number of troops.

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    Can you tell what new things are in RSII?
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    Default Re: Reforms

    Quote Originally Posted by FC Barcelona Fan View Post
    How much soldiers the most can be in battle?
    The largest theoretical battle would involve 9 armies with 20 units each, with each unit have 240 men + 3 officers. So this is 9*20*(240+3) = 43740 men in one battle.

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    Can you tell what new things are in RSII?
    Everything!! Check out the preview sticky which links to various preview threads that show what we've released about what's been changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sqυιd View Post
    The largest theoretical battle would involve 9 armies with 20 units each, with each unit have 240 men + 3 officers. So this is 9*20*(240+3) = 43740 men in one battle.

    meh... i never got more than 12k in the campaign... and that made my game crash (8 full legions + reserves against 1 stack of the last enemy settlement left to conquer)

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    Thx I smell RSII will be something...
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