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    Awesome... I dig the macemen...
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    Outstanding stuff. I love the font; it looks like this "archaic script" used in Romanian Orthodox churches.
    Just one minor concern: the map for Wallachia looks like that for Transylvania. I know for a fact that in-game we have the map and factions set up properly, must be just a small mistake.

    Outstanding work Phoenix and everyone! Can say that all our efforts were worth it!

    P.S. macemen are my favorites as well, but the mosneni archers are also very unique. Spear-armed archers = a whole new world of strategy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Romano-Dacis View Post
    Outstanding stuff. I love the font; it looks like this "archaic script" used in Romanian Orthodox churches.
    Just one minor concern: the map for Wallachia looks like that for Transylvania. I know for a fact that in-game we have the map and factions set up properly, must be just a small mistake.

    Outstanding work Phoenix and everyone! Can say that all our efforts were worth it!

    P.S. macemen are my favorites as well, but the mosneni archers are also very unique. Spear-armed archers = a whole new world of strategy.
    well, i was following this map
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    Great work really. I guess Wallachians would be my second choice. Love archer/horse archer based tactics.
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    Great work Tsardoms Team!!! What next???

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    phoenix, i believe that Wallachia should include Targoviste as it was one of the principality's capitals

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    Quote Originally Posted by matija191 View Post
    and "buzdovan" in croatian
    Serbo-Croatian

    Excellent preview!
    Units look amazing , only one thing is wrong , i cant see a chance for Wallachian against Serbian knights charge
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    Ampra why war ? Romanian Principates never fight against his neighbours serbs.Always were good relations )

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    its just a game
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    Fantastic work everyone, looks truly epic!


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    Quote Originally Posted by tavix View Post
    Ampra why war ? Romanian Principates never fight against his neighbours serbs.Always were good relations )
    You are right

    And we shall keep to have those kind relation both in game and in RL
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    Agree !

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    its just a game, no need to act loyal or something lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenix[illusion] View Post
    Ahhh!
    My eyes are just messed up then. The shapes looked similar by coincidence.
    Good job to the rest of the team once again!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wallachian
    phoenix, i believe that Wallachia should include Targoviste as it was one of the principality's capitals
    We decided to make the map as such for several historic reasons:
    1) Targoviste only became the capital almost 50 years after the start of the game.
    2) at the start of the game, Wallachia began a big expansion eastward, eventually reaching the ends of Basarabia.

    Therefore, to keep the game balanced and give a Wallachian player something to expand to, and the sake of historical accuracy, we decided to not include Targoviste into Wallachia at the start. We tried to reflect the borders as accurately as possible, and to make it more accurate would involve splitting that province in two, which would make Wallachia a very strong faction even without the need to expand.

    We don't know exactly if it was part of Wallachia in 1345. What we do know was that Wallachia was still expanding/unifying eastward at this time, and since we couldn't make another province we made a compromise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Romano-Dacis View Post
    Ahhh!
    My eyes are just messed up then. The shapes looked similar by coincidence.
    Good job to the rest of the team once again!
    anyways, why didn't we include Targoviste?
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    Slavic crusader chill mate. It will be war eventually between this 2 factions ( in game ofc )

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    Default Re: FACTION PREVIEW: Principality of Wallachia

    A few maps of Europe in the 14th century showing Wallachia which includes Targoviste (by comparing the shape with the one in the preview):



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    Ok, i just saw Romano edited his post. Makes sense, although I still would have liked for Wallachia to have Targoviste
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    tavix, u seemed weird for a second lol, im chilled man, just funny seeing someone for real peace between orthodoz brothers in a game...
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    I initially didn't get 90 % of the local names, but you got some good skill there
    Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga
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    Quote Originally Posted by slavic_crusader View Post
    just funny seeing someone for real peace between orthodox brothers in a game...
    well to be honest I first had the same thought! ally with Serbia! Romanians and Serbians have always been friends and brothers and never fought each other... I remember being proud of my Romanian brothers in highschool when the history teacher told us that Romania was invited by other countries in the Balkans to participate in dividing the lands of Serbia but refused and Serbia sent us a letter saying that this is what true friends are for! . .but this is just a game... still I will try to ally with Serbia while playing as Wallachia to have a strong ally in the Southwest and concentrate on other fronts, trying to unite the Romanian Principalities! can't wait!
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