Interesting picture. Isn't the first and third shield a cavalry pavise? The second shield is quite unusual, as it looks like typical western triangular shield but with symetrical indentations, while usually there is only one indentation for a lance.
That's what I was thinking as well! I mean c'mon, a wool/fur hat for Egyptian mamelukes!?
The detail on the "Mameluke" image is amazing. I wish we had this image when we were still working on the Wallachian roster. Maybe after all the factions are finished there could be some refinement of models (though the way the Wallachian cavalry looks now is accurate enough).
As for the shield: some elements may be from the artist's imagination. For instance, the heraldry seems like a very odd combination that might not actually have existed. The symmetric indentations might be an attempt at making the unit appear more exotic? I imagine that is also why the scimitar is in the image; Ottoman forces preferred to use the yatagan and I cannot imagine how these "Mamelukes" got a hold of such an elaborate and exotic weapon.
The image you presented is highly dubious. Eiter is a wrong label or it is an unfortunate artistic representation of a medieval author who had no idea how Mameluks looked. What is clear is the fact that these soldiers were not Mameluks, but Balkan (maybe Wallachian) soldiers, conclusion I based not only on the image you have presented, but also on severaly images from "Istoria Militara a Poporului Roman" such as this
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and enforced by a well researched drawing made by a Polish blogger
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By the way, the blog is quite interesting, but is mainly covering the Polish history
http://dariocaballeros.blogspot.com/...ht-second.html
Last edited by mircea; July 25, 2010 at 06:03 AM.
Great find mircea! +rep!
I've seen the one from "Istoria Militara a Poporului Roman", but the Polish drawing is great. There's a few more images of Wallachian light cavalry around such as this one:
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And this one:
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And they all share a lot of similarities.
Mircea, are there any good photos in Volume III of Istoria Militara a Poporului Roman?
For all those interested here's a great essay in English about the urban medieval economy in Wallachia. It talks about the trade relations of Wallachia with Transylvania, the other Balkan states, Poland, the type of products involved in trade, the crafts and other occupations and the effects of the increasing Ottoman dominance.
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Excellent preview!
It looks great cant wait!! But does anyone know atleast which month it comes out?![]()
nobody knows...
Its going to be soon- but by soon I mean 1-2 may be 3 months.Only the serbian and the bosnin rooster have to be done before v1.
Guys I can tell you that whole team is very ,very active !!!! We are working a lot![]()
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I must say this mod and this faction are too great. Will you finish it this year, at least?
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hey Sir Cojocaru that picture is reserved by Visarion and can be used by Visarion only! kiddin' pal!![]()
Thanx guys that you are still working at this mod. I can't wait to finaly play this game with factions wich really had significant importance in Balkan area. Keep up with the good & hard work, you deserve all the apreciation!
Long live the the united Romania and Dobruja(Dobrogea)the most loyal non Romanians.We honor aur ancester as always we have done
It will be nice if will be some Danubian units from Dobruja