I love Deus lo Vult and when returning to MTW2 after a long break. I'm pretty pertubed to find that the loading times are amazingly long. I mean I loaded up a campaign map, that takes about 10-15 minutes.
I thought ok if it only happens once, no problem right? Wrong, coming back from the battle map takes 5-10 minutes. Waiting for the AI to finish takes 5 minutes. Loading a save takes 10 minutes.
It was to my horror to find out I spend more time waiting than actually playing. My computer is more the capable of handling MTW2. I dont get such loading times with other mods. So I'm wondering is DLV so bloated with features now it takes an age to do anything? Is there some way I can reduce this?
If you tried playing without the optional scripts and didn't notice a difference, then I'm not aware of anything you could change easily within the game to increase the speed.
You could try my minimod, but I'd imagine it only speeds things up a tiny bit.
Out of interest, what processor, how much ram, and what operating system are you using?
Are the optionial scripts the ones at the start you have the option to turn off?
2.33GHZ Core 2 DUO CPU
1.gb of Ram
and my graphics card is
ATI RADEON HD 4600
1 Gb of ram is below the minimum for todays standards.
I suspect that you run out of memory and windows starts using the pagefile, so you get horrible waiting times.
Go get yourself some more ram and everything will run fast
Are the optionial scripts the ones at the start you have the option to turn off?
2.33GHZ Core 2 DUO CPU
1.gb of Ram
and my graphics card is
ATI RADEON HD 4600
Yeah, you could try turning them off. It might help a bit, but DLV scripts tend not to be operating for the AI - they do not affect AI turn time much.
Your processor is OK but if you're on Windows 7 or Vista then I suspect you just don't have enough ram.
If you're on XP, you would still benefit from having more ram, but the gains would be smaller.
Either way defrag the drive(s) the game and the operating system are installed on.
If it's XP then turn off virtual memory, defrag it again, and then set the min size for virtual memory to double the size of your ram. I suppose if it's Vista or 7 then maybe get a usb memory stick to use with Readyboost.
You should also make sure you aren't running any other software, turn off everything in the system tray. If that means disabling antivirus and firewall software then disconnect from the net.
Try out the latest drivers for your graphics card, and if you're already on them then try the previous ones. Update your motherboard drivers.
There we go, that should cover the basics.... (Overclock your CPU!! )
Or you could clean you drive and De-fragment it and go to RegEdit.exe and increase you PageFile...?
Too risky?
Well, have fun with slow loading times...
I didnt care if there was a risk and made my PageFile 18 Gigs... Very Useful even though my specs are:
Intel i7 Overclocked to 2.63Ghz
Ati Radeon HD 4800 Series
6 Gigs of Ram
1 TB Hardrive
18 GB PageFile
Search up Page File or
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
PageFile
Below im giving instructions to anyone who wants to increase Pagefile size beyond standard max 4095 and get off vertex buffer IN error.
Sometimes people have it controlled by system or even set to off. It could help a little.
When you set the paging file size in Windows, that the largest paging file that you can select is 4,095 megabytes (MB) per drive or volume.
It's good to have paging file on the drive with system, in most cases it should be on C:\... .
If extra drives or volumes are not available, you can create multiple paging files on a single drive by placing them in separate folders. The problem comes up if you use the small 1U server with only 2 drives that are usualy configured as raid 1.
To create multiple paging files on one volume to overcome the 4,095-MB limit:
On the drive or volume you want to hold the paging files, create folders for the number of paging files you want to create on the volume. For example, C:\Pagefile1, C:\Pagefile2, and C:\Pagefile3.
Using Registry Editor (Regedt32.exe), locate the following key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\SessionManager\MemoryManagement
Find the Pagingfiles value, and then double-click it to open it.
Remove any existing values, and add the following values:
Click OK and quit Registry Editor. Restart the computer to cause the changes to take effect.
In this example the page will now have the size of 12GB on one volume.
not a chance you can play with just 1 gb of ram. forget about defraggin and such, it would be the same with a freshly installed OS in a new hard drive.
just go and buy 1 gb of ram and you are ready to go. i talk from experience man. 30 bucks and you are king.
its not recommended to say "my pc is more than capable.." if not saying your specs thanks to taiji asking,
we would all suppose you had more than 1 gb and therefore try recommending stuff that would not have helped you at all.
for everyone that already has more than 1 gb, like myself and finds too many ctds and too much time of AI turn time, please, do this: (edit your desktop shortcut like this: --agis got inspired by checking on how the americas/british/etc shortcuts were designed--)
Originally Posted by AgisTournas
Originally Posted by ivanhoex
it works agis! this is great improvement, thanks!!
if i may ask, did you also undo the compatibility setting or you left it as xp? (i took out comp. mode, but maybe im gonna get more ctds now?)
also, the text would be: (remember i use a x64 OS, therefore the (x86) part) "C:\Program Files (x86)\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\kingdoms.exe" --features.mod=mods/DLV_ext
you also have to change the "start at folder.." line to just: "C:\Program Files (x86)\SEGA\Medieval II Total War"
I am glad that I could be of some help, my friend On my Windows 7 Ultimate Edition (32 bit operating system) I use the following settings (right-click properties on your DLV desktop shortcut):
TARGET : "C:\Games\Medieval II TW DLV (BB)\kingdoms.exe" --features.mod=mods/DLV_ext
START IN : "C:\Games\Medieval II TW DLV (BB)"
In the COMPATIBILITY tab I left everything unchecked.
Cheers
Agis A m
Last edited by ivanhoex; April 12, 2010 at 01:14 PM.
Nearly every other mod on the market as it were. Has perfectly acceptable loading times.
Deus lo Vult itself does'nt play slow. It's the loading times.
However I'm guessing from the replies it DOES'NT take anyone else 5 minutes to load something.
EDIT: Trying DLV Europa and the loading times for that are normal. Maybe I'll just have to stick with this.
Last edited by Balmung; April 12, 2010 at 04:28 PM.
No. It's Deus lo Vult believe me.
Nearly every other mod on the market as it were. Has perfectly acceptable loading times.
Deus lo Vult itself does'nt play slow. It's the loading times.
However I'm guessing from the replies it DOES'NT take anyone else 5 minutes to load something.
EDIT: Trying DLV Europa and the loading times for that are normal. Maybe I'll just have to stick with this.
Have you tried this solution..?
A mini-mod is never late! Nor is it ever early. It arrives precisely when I mean it to do! Son of Agisilaos / Grandson of jimkatalanos / Great-grandson of Garbarsardar
Maybe I missed the point here. I tried the compatibility thing above even though my game was not unpacked and I got the graphical errors. However I tested loading the campaign map and loading save games and there is no difference at all I'm afraid.
Maybe I missed the point here. I tried the compatibility thing above even though my game was not unpacked and I got the graphical errors. However I tested loading the campaign map and loading save games and there is no difference at all I'm afraid.
What is this graphical error? Did I miss something?
BTW if loading times aren't behaving, just uninstall and reinstall.
@taiji, dont recommend that in this case, as the guy will probably reinstall everything three times to no avail, latest time i installed it took me 3 hours!
and it wont fix it.
i know from experience, i must insist!
i had those SAME loading times too, reinstalling did nothing, i grew desperate, but followed an advise, got one more gig of ram and voila no more loading times
(about 30 secs average now!). reinstalling wont make his hardware work better
i adressed you, coz you were rising his hopes of fixing it by reinstalling and i know by personal experience that wont work.
so i told you not to encourage messures that will only make him lose time (precious little thing to most ppl).
i didnt meant to insult anyone by stating that reinstalling wont make hardware better, it was a rethorical way of underlining that if its true that
the system collapses due to high workload, that can only be fixed in two ways. either do not overload the system or improve it.
re-using the word, i cant underline enough that i didnt meant to insult you at all.
by all means, there is no need to refloat old controversies between us.
by the way, "personal experience" means that i had exactly the same issue and it could not be helped by ANY means.
i had to wait 4-5 minutes to load campaign or battle. worst, after a few battles, loading times were longer and longer.
even once i had to wait 20 mins! (huge city and huge battle)
i had to restart the game after two battles (despite doing so i had to enjoy about 20 minutes of wait just for those)
i hunted down the solution to this for a few weeks
up to the day i found the adequate answer. then i just focussed on getting the extra ram and from the moment i installed it (no other changes done to my system NOR install)
the game stopped having extra large loading times and became domesticated to behave properly.
what i dont understand is why would you say i am "probably wrong" about that... but hey, you are the master modder not me.
also to note:
(as this guys claims, its possible that even having 2 gigs, they can be setup to run slow and therefore wont give their full use.
still, even with the worst ram in the market, it will probably jump you from 10+minutes per load to 1 minute or 2, which is quite good an improvement)
Originally Posted by Exidus Maximus
even on my older computer:
ASUS A8N-32 SLI DELUXE
AMD +4400 X2 OC to 2.75
8800 GTX
I still dont have to wait past like even 15 seconds... even on like turn 400...
its ur CPU, or ur RAM. check that they are running maxed out. go into ur BIOS and see what speed ur RAM is running. it wont matter if u have 2 gigs of DDR2 800 RAM if they are only running at DD2 400 speeds... it will just be SLOW cuz they are underclocked, and DD2 has some high ass latencies.
also, here: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...&highlight=lag
repman reccomends to setup the process as higher priority, plus closing some background services and programs in order to make the system try to get more hardware to attend MTW2
its not reccomended as general messure, if its running ok, forcing may cause unneeded unstability.
also read somewhere that you might try to play without the garrison script. that may fasten turn time, i dont think that will help with campaing/battle loadings
Last edited by ivanhoex; April 16, 2010 at 01:17 PM.
now thats sad. i was kindda happy that there was no need to argue about anymore, but hey. life is like that. one day is bright the next pours.
as i said, my intention was never to molest/insult/annoy you.
you behave very sensitive, cant take my word on it
you also seem to regret that i posted on your thread and you did not stopped me asap. now you fixing that i suppose.
i know its good to have eyes that check the small things for you, and tried to give a hand from my game experience.
i had not carry out any kind of bad behaviour to you neither here nor there.
im sorry to been the cause that you felt angry today.
i didnt knew i was about to do it. consider it an honest mistake please.
Ultimately I tried to re-install again and there is no change.
By graphical errors I meant it seems I need the game unpacked to play with compatibility mode on.
I'm really stumped it does'nt happen on any other mods even large ones like Stainless Steel.
So bloody slow
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Originally Posted by Balmung
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IN error.
