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    By Laura McPhee

    Republican lawmakers are drafting new legislation that will make
    marriage a requirement for motherhood in the state of Indiana,
    including specific criminal penalties for unmarried women who do
    become pregnant "by means other than sexual intercourse."

    According to a draft of the recommended change in state law, every
    woman in Indiana seeking to become a mother throu gh assisted
    reproduction therapy such as in vitro fertilization, sperm donation,
    and egg donation, must first file for a "petition for parentage" in
    their local county probate court.

    Only women who are married will be considered for the "gestational
    certificate" that must be presented to any doctor who facilitates the
    pregnancy. Further, the "gestational certificate" will only be given
    to married couples that successfully complete the same screening
    process currently required by law of adoptive parents.

    As it the draft of the new law reads now, an intended parent "who
    knowingly or willingly participates in an artificial reproduction
    procedure" without court approval, "commits unauthorized
    reproduction, a Class B misdemeanor." The criminal charges will be
    the same for physicians who commit "unauthorized practice of
    artificial reproduction."

    The change in Indiana law to require marriage as a condition for
    motherhood and criminalizing "unauthorized reproduction" was
    introduced at a summer meeting of the Indiana General Assembly's
    Health Finance Commission on September 29 and a final version of the
    bill will come up for a vote at the next meeting at the end of this
    month.

    Republican Senator Patricia Miller is both the Health Finance
    Commission Chair and the sponsor of the bill. She believes the new
    law will protect children in the state of Indiana and make parenting
    laws more explicit.

    According to Sen. Miller, the laws prohibiting surrogacy in the
    state of Indiana are currently too vague and unenforceable, and that
    is the purpose of the new legislation.

    "But it's not just surrogacy," Miller told NUVO. " The law is vague
    on all types of extraordinary types of infertility treatment, and we
    wanted to address that as well."

    "Ordinary treatment would be the mother's egg and the father's
    sperm. But now there are a lot of extraordinary thing s that raise
    issues of who has legal rights as parents," she explained when asked
    what she considers "extraordinary" infertility treatment.

    Sen. Miller believes the requirement of marriage for parenting is
    for the benefit of the children that result from infertility
    treatments.

    "We did want to address the issue of whether or not the law should
    allow single people to be parents. Studies have shown that a child
    raised by both parents - a mother and a father - do better. So, we
    do want to have laws that protect the children," she explained.

    When asked specifically if she believes marriage should be a
    requirement for motherhood, and if that is part of the bill's
    intention, Sen. Miller responded, "Yes. Yes, I do."

    A draft of the legislation is available on the Health Finance
    Commission website
    http://www.boomantribune.com/?op=dis...0/3/223530/406


    This part is very dsturbing
    6) Personal information about each intended parent, including the following:
    (A) Family of origin.
    (B) Values.
    (C) Relationships.
    (D) Education.
    (E) Employment and income.
    (F) Hobbies and talents.
    (G) Physical description, including the general health of the individual.
    (H) Birth verification.
    (I) Personality description, including the strengths and weaknesses of each intended parent.

    (7) Description of any children residing in the intended parents’ home.

    (8) A verification and evaluation of the intended parents’ marital relationship, including:
    (A) the shared values and interests between the individuals;
    (B) the manner in which conflict between the individuals is resolved; and
    (C) a history of the intended parents’ relationship.

    (9) Documentation of the dissolution of any prior marriage and an assessment of the impact of the prior marriage on the intended parents’ relationship.

    (10) A description of the family lifestyle of the intended parents, include a description of individual participation in faith-based or
    church activities, hobbies, and other interests.

    (11) The intended parents’ child rearing expectations and values.
    http://www.in.gov/legislative/interi...lim/HFCO04.pdf


    If this passes whats next Republicans are destorying this country

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    The people proposing this should be imprisoned.

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    Why do I get the feeling this bill actually equals 'no kids for lesbos'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justinian
    Why do I get the feeling this bill actually equals 'no kids for lesbos'?
    That's one motive, but they don't want any liberals, atheists, muslims, communists or any other evil-doers to get kids either.

    edit: and how could i forget the blacks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atheist Peace
    That's one motive, but they don't want any liberals, atheists, muslims, communists or any other evil-doers to get kids either.

    edit: and how could i forget the blacks
    Unless they marry.

    It makes a certain sense, I suppose, but really serves no purpose... other then to gather lots and lots of information on women and their partners...

    Do I smell a conspiracy theory?

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    But a lot more of those people would have kids unmarried than christian, white conservatives would, so it's still a benefit for them. Besides, eventually they'll ban the people I mentioned from having kids at all. There will be the problem of what to do with people who do get pregnant, since they think abortion is wrong, but they'll find a way.

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    You know what, we "extreme religious right" members are just going to ignore this thread until you provide your source. It is impossible for us to defend ourselves if we don't know who is making the accusation. After you post your source, I will look at it, and give my opinion of it.

    You know, I think calling your opponents Nazis counts as a personal attack. The Nazis were monsters who tortured and imprisoned millions. If you seriously think we would do that, I recomend you see a good therapist.
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    emmm... Who called the extreme religious right Nazis?

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    Justinian the scoundrel!

    Note: there probably are some people like nazis on BOTH ends of the spectrum. However, they are so few in number there is little point in worrying about them. :original:

    EDIT: My apologies, Justinian. I really need to lay off the weed!
    Last edited by First Crusader; October 10, 2005 at 09:11 PM.
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    why is everything blamed on the extreme religious right nowadays? It's like how the Nazis blamed everything on the Jews... the extreme religious right wouldn't try to get people they didn't like not to reproduce
    make sure you read peoples post carefully before accusing them..

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    Quote Originally Posted by First Crusader
    EDIT: My apologies, Justinian. I really need to lay off the weed!
    Er ... yeah .. I was saying they are blamed for everything like the Nazis blamed the Jews for everything... not that they were Nazis. No worries, just a misunderstanding.

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